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originally posted by: Dorrell
a reply to: Meee32
Actually as an Atheist I still celebrate the holidays. It is the social norm to do so and great for the kids. it doesn't mean you have to believe in the Invisible Man.
And besides the Christian Holidays are not Christian. They are Pagan! And Halloween (All Hallows Eve) is Satanic.
originally posted by: Meee32
If I had my way I wouldn't celebrate any of the above, you're right... I also do not celebrate ramadan (or however you spell it) are you still as shocked? Tell me, why would I celebrate religious holidays when I am not religious?
originally posted by: Dorrell
a reply to: Meee32
Actually as an Atheist I still celebrate the holidays. It is the social norm to do so and great for the kids. it doesn't mean you have to believe in the Invisible Man.
And besides the Christian Holidays are not Christian. They are Pagan! And Halloween (All Hallows Eve) is Satanic.
originally posted by: SaturnFX
originally posted by: Meee32
If I had my way I wouldn't celebrate any of the above, you're right... I also do not celebrate ramadan (or however you spell it) are you still as shocked? Tell me, why would I celebrate religious holidays when I am not religious?
Speaking as a 40 year old kid...
Holidays (well, birthday celebrations aren't holidays..or perhaps the only one someone truly has, but anyhow..) are simply fun to participate in. I think we need more theme days
4th of july isn't a holiday (holy day), but same general concept..a theme, a family gathering, and something to break up the year...also with a theme feeling of sorts. Christmas is a pagan festival of..well, community really. Doctor Who gives good perspective on it.
In the middle of the winter, at the darkest and coldest part of the year, people look to one another, give a hug, and say well done...lets celebrate just to defy winter and pull together in celebration of love and life when nature is doing its best to turn you cold and kill you. I quite like that idea, also...cool music and pretty lights!.
Humans seem to have the innate desire to celebrate and come together...to deny this basic instinct is to deny your very animal tribal nature...who cares if the theme is of supernatural fat guys giving toys to good kids..its fun and a excuse to drink eggnog and sing carols with loved ones.
Learn to love life, even the weird stuff. Your not here for long, and if you deny yourself simple pleasures, regardless of how absurd the premise, then you only short change yourself.
Well that is a surprise as I've never heard of it lol...
Never had one knock my door either, funny I have had various religions do this.
I've also never seen an atheist church, do those exist too?
And now you imply that atheists have an "agenda" lol... The thing is atheists didn't pose the suggestion that god exists, did they? They simply don't believe the story... So how could they possibly have an agenda for anything?
Do religions have an agenda? In fact aren't they more likely to have one seeing as they started the whole debate?
There is absolutely no reason to believe in god... I mean could he exist?
Sure, so could fairies and eleves and dragons and anything else your mind can conjure, doesn't mean I believe they do though, in fact I don't think they do... are you "agnostic" about these too? Or are you sure dragons and such are fairytales?
originally posted by: tsingtao
originally posted by: Dianec
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Not teaching kids about religion in school is not teaching atheism. It's simply not teaching them religion. It is teaching them subject matter that is objective and universally important. Religion is not objective, nor is it important in terms of general knowledge. If you want your kids taught religion, that's what your church, synagogue, mosque, or temple is for. School is to teach your kids how to function in the world.
Do you not think learning about the different religions is important? Are they not an integral part of history and social studies? I believe they should be taught in a generalized and objective manner in order to help build a well rounded knowledge about cultures around the world and major movements. To leave that out is taking an extremist approach and actually serves to not ready our children for the world.
None of that says to teach about religion from a value standpoint - rather a historical and sociocultural standpoint - which in fact provides a more well rounded education.
a 3 letter word. lol!! oh noes!!!
it seems to be ok in college but not sooner, to teach kids. don't these people want acceptance? tolerance? understanding?between people? sounds like they are trying to retard all that rather than promote it.
but then it's ok to teach that at home and the kids not mention (censored) it in school.
i can see that path going real well.
don't mention your dad beats you either.
shall we all eat mac & cheese and spam sandwiches on white bread? crust or no crust?
don't do or think different in school. get in line.
October 31 - Samhain
Also known as Halloween, or All Hallows Eve as designated by the Catholic Church. This date is the Illuminati's highest day of human sacrifice
Halloween has been changed over the past 30 years in two important ways. First, children have been encouraged to participate by donning such inoffensive costumes as Barbie, Wonder Woman, Batman and Superman. Secondly, adult costuming and parties have reached a tremendous apex and has become a most macabre day of celebration.
Historically, Halloween is the deadliest holiday ever celebrated in human history. This Satanic night is dedicated to the Celtic Lord of the Dead, also symbolized by the Horned-god and the Stag-god. The Druids celebrated Samhain as a 3-day fire festival, building huge bonfires, thought to ward off demons that roamed around; additionally, the fires provided the means by which the required human sacrifice would be presented to the sun god. In enormous wicker baskets, the priests caged both human and animal sacrifices, which they then lowered into the flames.
The priests would carefully watch the manner in which the victim died in order to predict whether the future held good or evil.
originally posted by: Gear
a reply to: Meee32
Well that is a surprise as I've never heard of it lol...
Yeah, there are many including skepticon, atheist alliance international as the better known few.
Well, never the less this still doesn't make atheism a religion if some atheists decide to gather, does it? Girl guides gather too but they aren't a religion...
Never had one knock my door either, funny I have had various religions do this.
Personal experience. I've only ever had Jehovah's witness do that. And that's only one religion.
I've had all sorts at the door, not only jehovahs witnesses ro it... But yes of course it is my personal experience... and?
I've also never seen an atheist church, do those exist too?
Church is Christian place of worship. Other religions don't have 'churches'. But understand what you mean. Of course atheists have places to gather and exchange their ideas. Hence the conventions. don't see your point to this though.
I'm well aware that othet religions call their place of worship something else... But I just don't much care, sorry about that... The point is atheism is not a religion, the lack of belief in something can't be...
And now you imply that atheists have an "agenda" lol... The thing is atheists didn't pose the suggestion that god exists, did they? They simply don't believe the story... So how could they possibly have an agenda for anything?
Of course Atheists have an agenda. They deny the existence of a higher being because they don't believe in one. Again- look at Richard Dawkings- poster boy for Atheism. He spends his time running around telling people that they are wrong, writing books and making videos about how Atheism is superior.
No, this is not an AGENDA... If someone tells you something and it seems like bs to you, that does not mean you have an agenda... That is ridiculous... What does it matter if someone is running round telling the truth? What is the problem with that? Lol...
Do religions have an agenda? In fact aren't they more likely to have one seeing as they started the whole debate?
Yes. How is that even relevant? Of course religions have an agenda.
Good glad you admit this atleast, but now you play on it lol... You know you meant agenda in a negative light... And I dunno you brought up agendas so you tell me??? Lmao
There is absolutely no reason to believe in god... I mean could he exist?
You are correct. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe in god. Atheism isn't the lack of belief. It is the denial. Agnosticism makes the point that although there is no reason to- there is no evidence to the contrary. Time and time again I see Atheists and religious groups arguing. Never do I see agnostics arguing. Why? Because they are truly indifferent. They do not have an agenda. An atheist's Absolute denial of a higher being is unscientific.
Why do they deny? Because they do not believe! Lmao... I am here "arguing" (but really discussing) because a suggestion has been posed that I am a satantist and I decided to have some fun with that... Why did you? Another falacy you have is requiring atheists to provide proof of a negative, which is of course impossible!!! And the burden of proof does not lay with us... Now does it?
Sure, so could fairies and eleves and dragons and anything else your mind can conjure, doesn't mean I believe they do though, in fact I don't think they do... are you "agnostic" about these too? Or are you sure dragons and such are fairytales?
Again that would be indifferent. If someone was to believe in it- that's fine they can do that. It's not their place to try to convince you, as it's not your place to try to convince them. Also, I'm not agnostic nor did I claim to be.
You really should check your definitions though.
originally posted by: Dorrell
a reply to: SaturnFX
October 31 - Samhain
Also known as Halloween, or All Hallows Eve as designated by the Catholic Church. This date is the Illuminati's highest day of human sacrifice
Halloween has been changed over the past 30 years in two important ways. First, children have been encouraged to participate by donning such inoffensive costumes as Barbie, Wonder Woman, Batman and Superman. Secondly, adult costuming and parties have reached a tremendous apex and has become a most macabre day of celebration.
Historically, Halloween is the deadliest holiday ever celebrated in human history. This Satanic night is dedicated to the Celtic Lord of the Dead, also symbolized by the Horned-god and the Stag-god. The Druids celebrated Samhain as a 3-day fire festival, building huge bonfires, thought to ward off demons that roamed around; additionally, the fires provided the means by which the required human sacrifice would be presented to the sun god. In enormous wicker baskets, the priests caged both human and animal sacrifices, which they then lowered into the flames.
The priests would carefully watch the manner in which the victim died in order to predict whether the future held good or evil.
That's the info I got on Halloween. A Pagan / Satanic Ritual day!
Occult Holidays and Sabbats