I've Had Enough of This Gay Marriage Crap.

a reply to: JIMC5499

This has nothing to do with gay marriage, but public displays of affection.

Next time be more assertive yourself and ask them nicely to tone down the pda. Kissing is one thing, groping is another. You know what stops that kind of behavior, a glass of water thrown on them.

a reply to: JIMC5499


Bare breasted, really? Sounds sexy to me, but if it was as bad as you describe why not call the police, since everything you describe is completely illegal?

a reply to: JIMC5499

Why can't you just live and let live?

Pics or it didn't happen..

a reply to: JIMC5499

So, to summarize; You had one bad, personal experience and now you've made up your mind on the entire argument.

Nice.

originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
a reply to: JIMC5499

All marriage should be gay... that is to say that all marriage should be happy. That is the REAL definition of the word gay, until the word was hijacked and redefined, so let's call it what it really is .... SODOMITE marriage.

So not calling them "gay" because it means happy is bad but calling them "sodomites" even if they aren't from Sodom is okay?

"Sodomite" is every bit a colloquialism as "gay" is. To me, the biggest sin I saw in the bible about Sodom was Lot giving up his daughters to be raped in order to prevent a homosexual rape. To me, this was an act of homophobia so extreme that he allowed his daughters to be assaulted because of his prejudices.

Now that you made me think of it, I think I'm going to start calling homophobic conservatives "Sodomites" now. It actually fits better.

As a male who digs females, I say the more gay men, the better for me. Less competition. I have met more than a few lesbians who were more than willing to come to the dark side...if even for only a night, but a few of them turned into long-term relationships. If people are in love and want to have sex, who's business is it what combination of hoo-hoo dillies and cha-chas they want to create pleasurable friction with? But, yeah...it is maybe a little inconsiderate and rude to do it in a restaurant. Go get a room.

a reply to: blupblup

Lots of people who are pro gay marriage are getting tired of being hammered every second by the gay agenda.

News, social media, TV, movies, ads, forums, and if you happen to not agree and want a healthy debate you're a monster.

I just believe that we have far more important issues in the US and should just get this irrelevant issue away by giving these people everything they want and deserve.

a reply to: JIMC5499

I feel the same as you. There is a time and a place for foreplay and its not at a restaraunt. Gay or Straight... that is not the way you act in public.

Well, this certainly wasn't what I was excepting from a thread with a title like that. It got my attention though, which I am sure was the point.

I agree. I don't care what your sexual orientation is, I don't want to see that in public. Now if it was two dudes... maybe...naw still wouldn't.

Indecent exposure or public nudity charges wouldn't have worked. The inside of a restaurant isn't considered "being in public" in this case. The only person who could have made something like that work would have been the Manager. As far as my recording it on my cell phone goes, I would have been up on charges, the same as that kid who videoed his being bullied.

I don't give a damn about gay marriage. What I do give a damn about is how people can act as those two were doing and nothing was done about it because people don't want to face the backlash that happens when something is said.

a reply to: JIMC5499

Why dont you just mind your own business and let people be who they are?

a reply to: onequestion

If I had a child around I would have made a very serious scene unfortunately, homosexual or not.

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: onequestion

If I had a child around I would have made a very serious scene unfortunately, homosexual or not.

For sure, that's exactly what they don't take into consideration..

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: JIMC5499

Why dont you just mind your own business and let people be who they are?

When I'm paying for a $200 dinner, crap like that is my business. Now that I know what the restaurant's views are, they can do that all they want, because I won't be back.

I agree. I'm tired of it being used as a wedge to force revenge. If what you say you want is tolerance, then you need to look up the definition of the word because I don't think it means what you're displaying.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: JIMC5499

Why dont you just mind your own business and let people be who they are?

If I was there with my 3-year-old and there was a porno live action going on at the next table, it becomes my business. My son doesn't need to see that from anyone, gay or straight. If that's what they want to do, then they should seriously get a room and order room service, then they can play with their food.

I'm gay, and we've effectively had equal same-sex marriage in South Africa since 2006.

I can say though that the behavior you describe isn't necessarily connected to "gay" marriage as such.
In fact, since then the SA gay movement has gone into somewhat of a slumber, despite alarming anti-gay laws on the continent and an influx of refugees.

It's also wrong to think that anything that same-sex couples do is immediately supported or seconded by all gay people.

There are race, class and gender divisions amongst lgtb people.
In fact, they are so strong here, that I sometimes wonder whether we'll ever have a unified movement again, without homophobic oppression as a common enemy.
At least in the mainly white community I've also heard complaints of especially women (who might identify as "gay/lesbian" or not) sometimes getting tipsy at family venues, and people weren't very happy with the spectacle.

Some of the urban centers are very gay-friendly, but in the suburbs people are more conservative.

In the majority black townships a lot of reports and documentaries have focused on the violence and "corrective rape" directed at lesbians.
That is, some men think they can make lesbian women "straight" by raping them!
That makes me so tired of some heterosexual men and their patriarchal culture.

I think young people are more prone to make fools out of themselves, because when they "come out" they haven't integrated their sexuality into a proper social order.
Apart from radical gender theorists, there is very little guidance for young people from well-adjusted lgtb stalwarts.
However, I've certainly seen young heterosexuals act similarly.
When I was in my early twenties I made out with people to shock authority figures, and my willing partners did the same.
I thought of the 1960's slogan - "Make Love not War", or "When I make Love I make the Revolution!"

Even worse, we thought all cultures who were fighting oppression seconded that view.
Now I think they probably thought: "Look at at those darn filthy white hippies!"
Oh well, that's hindsight.
Nobody at universities really teaches how conservative "other cultures" really are in that respect.
It's like the Baader-Meinhof socialist terrorists getting booted out of an Islamist camp because they stripped naked and believed that shooting and f--king were the same.

Not sure, but I do sometimes feel women can get away with more than gay men, at least in Western culture.
However, gay marriage certainly hasn't changed homophobia, or people's attitudes.
If I go to the local bar alone, only a minority of guys will talk to me, and the rest immediately think I want their fat, ugly bodies.
But I hear so much prejudice every day - whites are bitter and arrogant twats, blacks are opportunists, lesbians are aggro and gay men only want sex.
It's all nonsense, and sometimes all people misbehave.

a reply to: halfoldman

I think part of what homosexuals, both men and women might forget is that there is an inner revulsion to seeing something sexual that doesn't work for you which is likely why it used to be that most overt displays of affection beyond maybe a stray, fleeting touch every so often or parental displays of affection toward children were kept out of the public eye.

If you see people behaving in an overtly sexual manner that makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't work with your mores or your orientation or both ... it is really offensive and off-putting whether you actually harbor any deep-seated animus toward those people or not. It's the behaviors, and you really can't help it.

I don't like seeing my parents get overly close, and I love them. I just don't like to be reminded that they're sexual. The thought is "icky" for me because it doesn't work for me. I imagine that someday I'll feel the same way when watching my son with his girlfriend or future wife. Yes, they're getting it on, but I won't like thinking of my little boy that way.

originally posted by: JIMC5499

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: JIMC5499

Why dont you just mind your own business and let people be who they are?

When I'm paying for a $200 dinner, crap like that is my business. Now that I know what the restaurant's views are, they can do that all they want, because I won't be back.

What are you complaining about exactly? Inappropriate public sexual behavior? Or same-sex couples?