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originally posted by: Peekingsquatch
a reply to: Phoenix
Thank you Phoenix. I heard that yesterday too about a militia unit with 50,000 members in support of this, but couldn't remember what state. This whole thing sounds like so much more than just him.
You have alot of long winded post that amount to what the cows leave behind. You spew retoric like if the situation were different i would stand hand in hand with the protesters.
originally posted by: Wrabbit2000
a reply to: deadeyedick
Well, you raise some fair points and I think you misunderstand my position. Also fair, but let me try and clarify that. I think it matters and you're not the only one to ask recently. I honestly do take things on a case by case basis. This is why you're as likely to see me condemning cops as supporting them. It depends on the story, specific circumstances and men involved. I simply don't support or fight against anything on blind faith. Also, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is the single most dangerous line of thought to ever come from man. It can justify almost anything, good or bad.
In this case, while I'll say I'm not certain of my final position, I'm fully confident in what I have said to this point, based on the research I've done thus far. Bundy appears to be flat out wrong. You're right that in principle? I wish he weren't. I really want to see a BIG test case come where the BLM forgot to cross a t somewhere or figured they could pull a fast one. In this day of enraged people with an eye toward action? It may only take one.
The problem is.....if it's the wrong one. If it's a case where, in the end, the majority of the public can see 'well...they weren't technically even right in the fight'.. then not only will the one battle be lost, but the outcome of the overall "war" to see real and meaningful change will be compromised. Lose the population in general? You lose the cause. The population can be neutral...but it's lost if they turn against. A BIG public fight later shown to be baseless....would do that, I fear.
So.. That's really at the heart of why, up to now at least, I'm no friend of the Bundy cause, even if I am in major opposition to the idea any state can have double digits to break 80% (WOW!) in Federal control vs. State control. Interstate Highways, National Parks and Military bases. Those 3 things about sum up what I think the Feds should EVER have for more than building or warehouse space, pretty much anywhere in the nation.