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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
Did Cain exercise free will when he murdered his brother Able? Did "God" take free will away from Cain, or any human on account of their choices? No?
If "God" never interfered with humanity's right to exercise free will, even to murder, why should the choice of abortion, which is NOT murder, nullify a person's right to choice?
I'd wager a good number of abortions are due to women putting their careers ahead of motherhood. What makes this woman's choice any different or less valid?
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
Did Cain exercise free will when he murdered his brother Able? Did "God" take free will away from Cain, or any human on account of their choices? No?
If "God" never interfered with humanity's right to exercise free will, even to murder, why should the choice of abortion, which is NOT murder, nullify a person's right to choice?
I'd wager a good number of abortions are due to women putting their careers ahead of motherhood. What makes this woman's choice any different or less valid?
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
a reply to: TritonTaranis
Oh okay. So all abortion is wrong, but this lady's abortion is/would be wronger. That's what I thought, and where I thought this thread was going. Got it!
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
Nobody's choices are sacred, but the right to choose, and the right to make mistakes or make choices that others disagree with, is.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
Nobody's choices are sacred, but the right to choose, and the right to make mistakes or make choices that others disagree with, is.
I think that's fair, you give them a choice but show them exactly what their choice is. And then you take care of the life-long therapy. Would that be fair? A choice without all knowledge is not a real choice.
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
Nobody's choices are sacred, but the right to choose, and the right to make mistakes or make choices that others disagree with, is.
Yes, we all have choices. But having freedom of choice does not mean we have the right to go ahead and make the wrong choice simply because we want to.
This woman has made a lot of choices, including prostitution. But that's the choice between her and the customer. Did he have the right to go ahead and cheat on his wife? I am afraid that responsibility is lost in translation because young people hear the message
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
I think that's fair, you give them a choice but show them exactly what their choice is. And then you take care of the life-long therapy. Would that be fair? A choice without all knowledge is not a real choice.
It's not me, or anyone that "gives" people choices, it's their inalienable right; free will. Exercising free will doesn't exempt one from consequences. Cause and effect is just a real as free will.
Look around, one in three women have had abortions. Not that many women are suffering from mental illness or are otherwise morally bereft and spiritually vacant because they choose to take care of an unwanted pregnancy. Women have been taking care of these kinds of things since the beginning of time. Nothing new to see here.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: ketsuko
Do you have a proposal how to stop someone from exercising their free will, even if it's used to rape?
Yes. we offered a solution but it was quickly rejected.
You said it's their inalienable right so it's their inalienable right to rape. You can't have it both ways.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
Yes. we offered a solution but it was quickly rejected.
What solution was that? I must have missed it.
You said it's their inalienable right so it's their inalienable right to rape. You can't have it both ways.
Neither I, nor anyone can prevent a person from exercising their free will. Free will is a sacred inalienable right.
ME
Do you have a proposal how to stop someone from exercising their free will, even if it's used to rape?
YOU
Yes. we offered a solution but it was quickly rejected.
Don't you think that all the facts should be presented before making a choice? And you do realize that Thomas Jefferson believed that choices should be made after careful consideration and never should a young person make a choice because they don't understand all the facts, do you?
originally posted by: TiM3LoRd
a reply to: TritonTaranis
Kind of split on this issue as people this psychopathic should not even be allowed to reproduce.
Having said that the poor unborn kid is innocent in all this and should be given a chance to rise above its DNA.
Unbelievable is all I can say. What a waste of potential.