originally posted by: candlestick
Because Law of Attraction is BS.
Okay, there are many responses here that suggest the posters did not read the OP.
Perhaps some points of it need to be highlighted?
Darkbake wrote in the OP:
A lot of people take to the belief that manifesting is just "wishing" for something and getting it without effort. Well, I don't
subscribe to that philosophy
However, there is another form of manifestation that is very close to that first form - what you do is, you visualize something in your mind, write it
down, and then get there. After a lot of practice, what really happens is, you begin to learn how to think critically and problem-solve. The visuals
are important because you have to be able to imagine and manipulate variables that aren't directly in front of you.
I think the use of the term Law of Attraction led some to mistaken conclusions about the topic.
What is described in the OP is problem solving skills and critical thought.
the values given to you by religions and society are not really useful, because they don't tell you anything about what to do in any kind
of situation you might find yourself in - in fact, they are mostly meant to limit your perspective and experiences.
-Which suggest it is through life experiences and changing, flexible perspectives, that problem solving and critical thought is developed as a skill.
Religion stabilizes perspective and limits life experiences (through dictating one universal perspective and rules upon acceptable behavior and
It can also be observed, however:
But you also discover that there are useful pieces of wisdom that do help one manifest in this fashion without harming others or
themselves. You can probably see the problem here that arises from having unlimited manifestation power -
It can take a lot of character to be able to use it in a fashion that doesn't come back to bite you, or others, see
Religion limits our manifesting power, yet it also provides some limitation on ones capability to abuse that power (to use it in ways which end up
hurting themself, or others eventually).
I will offer an example- the Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You
If you are very observant, you can see that others around you will eventually treat you in the same way you treat them. Simply because of psychology-
mimicking happens without us being completely conscious.
A simple example is the way people will match the facial expressions of the person they have in front of them.
A more complex one is when you have a relationship of regular contact with a person who has a specific sort of behavior consistantly. If they
suddenly do a different type of behavior one day, then you may surprise yourself by doing the behavior they usually do- as if you switched places with
Or away from them, you find yourself acting like them towards others.
It is a mechanism of psychology that we all share, and has nothing to do with magic- it is in fact a part of our automatic systems which support
So that religious "rule" could also be seen as some advice. It would limit your manifestation power somewhat- a solution to one obstacle may be "punch
that person in front of me and then I can get the thing I want in front of them."
But that advice would signal the possible effect that we could be punched back and the solution wouldn't work.We'd be on the floor gasping instead of
getting that thing.
My example illustrates a benign and even positive effect religion may have, which is NOT what the OP wished to express (it came to me first because my
opinion is that religion might have some potential positive tools in it, especially for the development of social bonds).
The OP meant to point especially at:
a lot of Western religions are built on confusing people's cause-and-effect mechanisms to make it so that when they try to manifest
something, they do it in an unhealthy manner. Basically, religion seems to be made for the direct and exclusive purpose of breaking people's ability
-The way the life experiences can get limited by the "rules" (therefore leaving less information to pull from in problem solving ) as well as
perspectives which limit critical thinking (like teaching one to not examine and analyze a situation they are in, but rather, simply tell themself God
planned it this way for some mysterious reason, or some sort of spiritual justice, ending all further observation and learning).
I think this is simply a look at the old conflict between religion and science, thinking versus feeling, logic versus emotion, socialization versus
individualization, masculine versus feminine, Yin versus Yang.
Religion limits individual power, as does any effective social structure.
This sometimes results in one becoming unaware of their potential as an individual.
Which is why I think many spiritual paths encourage a "period in the desert" or retreat from civilization for a time, in which one exits those
limitations and expands their experiences and skills.
edit on 30-4-2014 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)