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a reply to: Bassago
An update or in the news today, well at least a website: www.classwarfareexists.com... website & story 37 States Allow Corporations To Get Rich Off Prison Labor - See more at: www.classwarfareexists.com... But with any easily disenfranchised group (and prisoners might be the most disenfranchised in the country, almost by definition), the opportunity for exploitation and abuse is extremely high. The probability of abuse becomes even higher for a group of people typically perceived as “deserving” of it. Prisoners fit that bill nicely. - See more at: www.classwarfareexists.com... At least 37 states have legalized the contracting of prison labor by private corporations that mount their operations inside state prisons. The list of such companies contains the cream of U.S. corporate society: IBM, Boeing, Motorola, Microsoft, AT&T, Wireless, Texas Instrument, Dell, Compaq, Honeywell, Hewlett-Packard, Nortel, Lucent Technologies, 3Com, Intel, Northern Telecom, TWA, Nordstrom’s, Revlon, Macy’s, Pierre Cardin, Target Stores, and many more. - See more at: www.classwarfareexists.com... All of these businesses are excited about the economic boom generation by prison labor. Just between 1980 and 1994, profits went up from $392 million to $1.31 billion. - See more at: www.classwarfareexists.com... I could quote the entire article, a good informative read. His closing: We are building an unethical and unhealthy economic system that is further destroying our country’s workforce and shifting it over to underpaid, abused prisoners. That system has a strong incentive to keep jails full and criminals locked away for exorbitant sentences. If we continue to do nothing, the problem will only grow. Unfortunately, the stigma that being in prison means you deserve whatever comes your way has supported of this dangerous system and given politicians and businessmen political cover in further enriching corporate interests at the expense of everyone else. - See more at: www.classwarfareexists.com... Have heard complaints about immigrants taking your jobs and jobs going over seas, does anyone care that, One out of every 100 American adults is behind bars. That’s more than 2.4 million people who have been taken out of the workforce and had their rights legally stripped away. That’s a lot of potential exploitable workers for a corporation to use. - See more at: www.classwarfareexists.com... Where have all the people gone? Long time passing. Where have all the people gone? Long long time ago? edit on 16-11-2013 by donlashway because: (no reason given) - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
I have no problem with sending people who commit crimes against others to jail. I also have no problem with making those people clean up roads, cleaning state property, making license plates, fixing roads, or any other reasonable labor that would be a benefit to the state. For example, If they are building furniture it should be used for the state to offset state costs.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
Quote from the OP article -
“They’re incarcerating people for the free labor.” -
No. They are incarcerating people who break the law and then those people are working to pay back their debt to society.
ETA ... FLAME AWAY.
Federal: On Dec. 31, 2012, there were 196,574 sentenced prisoners under federal jurisdiction. Of these, 99,426 were serving time for drug offenses, 11,688 for violent offenses, 11,568 for property offenses, and 72,519 for "public order" offenses (of which 23,700 were sentenced for immigration offenses, 30,046 for weapons offenses, and 17,633 for "other").
State: On Dec. 31, 2011, there were 1,341,797 sentenced prisoners under state jurisdiction. Of these, 222,738 were serving time for drug offenses, of whom 55,013 were merely convicted for possession. There were also 717,861 serving time for violent offenses, 249,574 for property offenses, 142,230 for "public order" offenses (which include weapons, drunk driving, court offenses, commercialized vice, morals and decency offenses, liquor law violations, and other public-order offenses), and 9,392 for "other/unspecified".
Source: E. Ann Carson and Daniela Golinelli, "Prisoners in 2012: Trends in Admissions and Releases, 1991-2012" (Washington, DC: US Dept. of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics, Dec. 2013), NCJ243920, Table 5, p. 3, and Appendix Table 10, p. 43.
- See more at: www.drugwarfacts.org...
You have outrageous sentences, you have the draconian three strike rule, you have officers killing innocent people then getting paid leave vacatio
WASHINGTON—For decades, the task of counting the total number of federal criminal laws has bedeviled lawyers, academics and government officials.
"You will have died and resurrected three times," and still be trying to figure out the answer, said Ronald Gainer, a retired Justice Department official.
Many Failed Efforts to Count Nation's Federal Criminal Laws
originally posted by: hellobruce
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: minusinfinity
You do realize in some states if you have prescription medication not in their original labeled containers you can be charged with a felony, right?
Then simply keep it in the correct container.... why not leave it there? See, that is how simple it is to stay out of jail....
originally posted by: totallackey
That does not mean to say I agree with the OP and other people saying it is easy peasy to get thrown in prison...You have to eff up really bad to get thrown in prison...Anybody who says otherwise is simply a manipulator, moral equivocator, or just plain silly...
originally posted by: HomerinNC
Being a former resident in Florida's and North Carolina's correctional systems, I can tell you from first hand experience how it works.
In Florida, you have 2 choices: work or solitary confinement. Thats it.
in NC, you have a variety of jobs, from working on the grounds or off the grounds at places like hospital laundries, DOT, National Monuments (ie the USS North Carolina), and in some cases, fast food, etc. The inmates get paid at their max, about 50-75 cents AN HOUR. Sometimes you can work up to 12 hours a day, and earn 9.00 A DAY, which gives you $45.00 A WEEK. Then they STILL take out taxes, social security, etc, then expect you to pay something for room and board, and child support and alimony, if court ordered, so most they get is like $2.00 $3.00 a week for themselves to buy a bag of chips (which costs about .75) and a can of soda (.50).
Yes its slavery. But who cares,right? We're all convicts. We're all guilty.
originally posted by: TheFinder
Is everyone upset about this???
I mean, come on, it IS PRISON!
When you are sitting in the comfort of your home, reading ATS, you should think about how far from prison YOU are. These people are in prison FOR A REASON.
I personally think it should be a living HELL. Then it should be televised for those that think about offending in the future. It's not meant to be a SUMMER CAMP.
Some machines are just BROKEN and need to be refurbished. Prison should be the HARDEST thing that these people ever gave to do. Then maybe, we wouldn't have repeat offenders or offenders at all.
originally posted by: Cynic
Prison isn't supposed to be a fun place to live. If you do the crime, you pay the consequences. Personally, I have no problem with their situation. The John Howard and Elizabeth Fry Societies might, but for the most part I don't particularly care. If you don't want to be there or are afraid of what could happen to you once you end up in jail, don't position yourself to have that unfavorable place to hang your hat.