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originally posted by: corsair00
a reply to: Daedalus
I am not familiar with the WingMakers very much. Isn't that somehow connected to Kerry Cassidy and Project Camelot? I was under the impression that, like Vallee, the WingMakers story was using science-fiction as a format to bring up other classified information. As far as Vallee's work goes, I am 90% convinced he is "in the know" and has tried to leak certain information under the disguise of fiction. He has actually admitted to doing that. ALINTEL versus Alien Contact Intelligence Organization was just a free association. There are certainly commonalities between the 2 and the notion of a shadow government working on classified technology R&D relating to UFOs.
“That requires about as much power as a small radio transmitter—and rather similar skills to operate. For it’s the application of the power, not its amount, that matters. How long do you think Hitler’s career as dictator of Germany would have lasted, if wherever he went a voice was talking quietly in his ear? Or if a steady musical note, loud enough to drown all other sounds and to prevent sleep, filled his brain night and day? Nothing brutal, you appreciate. Yet, in the final analysis, just as irresistible as a tritium bomb.”
Only four months after I went to work at Fairchild, Von Braun called me from his sick-bed to say I had to give a speech for him the next day in Chicago. He sent me home with four books on satellite technology; I was supposed to become familiar with the language, "but," he said, "don't worry about the speech. You will know what to say." I had no idea what he was talking about, and stayed up half the night taking notes on the books.
That was my first speech in the industry, to the National Education Association in McCormack Place, Chicago, 1974, in front of 18,000 people. I nearly vomited with anxiety as I saw my face on the large screen behind me and on the small podium screen in front of me. Then, as I opened my mouth to speak, having no idea what I was going to say, I heard Von Braun's voice, as if it was coming across on a telephone line, introducing satellites as a teaching tool to teachers. I must have sounded intelligent, because the audience seemed to appreciate how satellites can be used in the classroom. There were times when his voice was silent, but I kept talking, using my imagination, getting into the fantasy and the fun of global satellite education possibilities.
The strategy that Werner Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. We were told that they had "killer satellites". We were told that they were coming to get us and control us - that they were "Commies."
Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.
The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.
And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. "And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie."
What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place. He didn't mention a timeline but he said that it was going to be speeding up faster than anybody could possibly imagine. That the effort to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of people even understand- ing it until it was already up there and too late.
After 19 years in Hollywood working for major studios and independent production companies in production, development and new media, she has written a number of screenplays, acquired the movie rights to the Wingmakers story in 2003, and started work on her own UFO documentary in 2005.
Kerry has written a number of spec scifi screenplays and acquired an option on the movie rights to the Wingmakers story in 2003 as an independent producer pitching scifi projects to Hollywood.
originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: 1ofthe9
i'll take this one....i'll try to make the summary as brief as possible, which is hard, because the web of absolute B.S. is so complex..
that's it in a nutshell....i had to leave a LOT out, due to posting constraints, but this, i believe is the most important bits..
originally posted by: lostgirl
a reply to: corsair00
So, when Von Braun said "We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie."...should we take that to mean that he was saying that UFOs are a "lie"? (As in 'not real'?)
“UFOs are real but they are not physical. They are messengers of deception”Jacques Vallee
The UFOs do not seem to exist as tangible, manufactured objects. They do not conform to the natural laws of our environment. They seem to be nothing more than transmogrifications tailoring themselves to our abilities to understand. The thousands of contacts with the entities indicate that they are liars and put-on artists. (John Keel - Operation Trojan Horse p. 266) www.scribd.com...
Why the desire to change our beliefs? These aliens had a clear teaching agenda. But why was it so important for these aliens to change our traditional spiritual beliefs? (Ibid., p.33)
Some folk are only too keen, observes Bates, “to imbibe the stories told by these visiting entities, though they cannot scientifically establish their origin or indeed their reality in the physical realm. We do know that the so-called space brothers have established a pattern of telling us things that have been proven to be demonstrably false. One should then ask, ‘Should they be trusted either?’ After all, if they have lied, should they not be treated as liars?” (Ibid., p.221)
They are inveterate liars and deceivers, and delight in bamboozling and misleading mankind with all manner of nonsense. They are addicted to the abduction or kidnapping of humans.
The True Nature Of The 'UFO Entities'
"One theory which can no longer be taken very seriously is that UFOs are interstellar spaceships." - Arthur C. Clarke
While Hynek played along with the Air Force’s UFO program, others spoke out more openly about UFOs. On January 1, 1959, Wernher von Braun, the greatest scientist in aerospace history, made this statement in reference to the deflection of the U.S. Juno 2 rocket from its orbit:
"We find ourselves faced by powers which are far stronger than we had hitherto assumed, and whose base is at present unknown to us. More I cannot say at present. We are now engaged in entering into closer contact with those powers, and in six or nine months’ time it may be possible to speak with more precision on the matter. "
Von Braun said this while he was in Germany during the holiday season. He never followed up on it, and no further information is available on it. A one-time slip up?
Notably Von Braun, like MacArthur, did not refer in so many words to “extraterrestrials” but simply to “powers which are far stronger than we had hitherto assumed,” leaving open the possibility that he meant something concerning physical forces. He alludes to an “unknown base” however, and indicates that “contact” is being attempted.