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Communism was a German plot blamed on Jews

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posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 02:59 AM
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a reply to: Anglojew

You want to hear something kind of scary? A lot of the higher-ups in academia think that NAZI Germany was actually a Jewish plot to get back their homeland, not by all of the Jews, but by some Jews in the know who were working alongside Hitler.




posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 02:59 AM
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originally posted by: wombatta
Jews tryiing to blame Germans for communism ,what next will they come up with ? blaming the death of millions of Kulaks on them ? the tried to blame Katyn massacre of Polish Officers on Germany ,umm didnt work that time ,these people are the most deceitful ,conniving ,lieing people ever ...................


Prove me wrong with evidence or stfu.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 03:18 AM
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a reply to: wombatta

I find it very ignorant and immature, not to mention an evident symptom of psychosis, to attempt to categorize an entire demographic of human beings under one umbrella accusation based on the actions of a single constituent of said demographic. The likelihood of your accusations being true are, literally, like .0001 out of 100. Just think about that for a moment.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 03:19 AM
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In other words...


originally posted by: Anglojew
stfu.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 04:58 AM
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originally posted by: Anglojew

Exactly my point but possibly not what you had in mind?



Haha... Wikipedia. I'm not sure what I implied is even on the web to be honest.
Back when I studied this, we actually went to the DNB archives (German National-Library), and even read translations from the czarist secret police.
Anyways, you have to look further in the past. Also, it's always good to follow the money (Sisson files).

This is all I want to contribute.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 05:11 AM
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a reply to: Anglojew

You're grasping.

Zionists are the ones responsible, Zionists are nothing more than Jewish extremists much like Nazi's, Black Panthers, or other extremist groups.

It is unfortunate that people like you cannot distinguish Jew's from Zionists and in return try to paint another "innocent" party as the ones responsible as you're trying to move the blame from Jew's. But as I said, the Jew's were not responsible, Zionists were (are). Not all blacks are Black Panthers. Not all whites are KKK members. Not all Jew's are Zionists.

Place the blame where blame is due.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 07:26 AM
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originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: Anglojew

You want to hear something kind of scary? A lot of the higher-ups in academia think that NAZI Germany was actually a Jewish plot to get back their homeland, not by all of the Jews, but by some Jews in the know who were working alongside Hitler.


No they don't.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 07:27 AM
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originally posted by: Auricom
a reply to: Anglojew

You're grasping.

Zionists are the ones responsible, Zionists are nothing more than Jewish extremists much like Nazi's, Black Panthers, or other extremist groups.

It is unfortunate that people like you cannot distinguish Jew's from Zionists and in return try to paint another "innocent" party as the ones responsible as you're trying to move the blame from Jew's. But as I said, the Jew's were not responsible, Zionists were (are). Not all blacks are Black Panthers. Not all whites are KKK members. Not all Jew's are Zionists.

Place the blame where blame is due.


I've never even mentioned zionists. What are you taking about?



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: Anglojew


Convenient for your agenda. Henry Ford was no moral authority.


Which is ALSO another way of saying "I have no real evidence to dispute your facts with."

ALSO Convenient for YOUR agenda BTW.

"Moral authority" has no more credibility than those mainstream historical sources you are so fond of...

As I said earlier, MOST here prefer the truth over what flows from the mainstream sewer.



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: Anglojew

originally posted by: Danbones
some historians have written quite extensively on how
banker jacob schiff funded the bolshevics
and ordered the hit on the czar and his whole family
made a good buck off his investment in communism too


Please include a mainstream link to this.

Again, I've included links to mainstream historical sources stating it was actually a successful plot by Arthur Zimmermann to end the war on Germany's Eastern front.


mainstream re the collusion between zioists and communists and nazis...lol
thats kinda funny...please see the modern version of the ex IDFs and the neo Nazis in ukraine...

here the one time worlds best writer:


Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution
Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of Jews in Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the repression as its victims.

www.theguardian.com...

under fire...for of course telling the truth...about Zionists..repressing real jews
I'm certain things like the pogroms were NOT run by germans...
Now, why is he not mainstream?
edit on Sunpm4b20144America/Chicago25 by Danbones because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: Danbones

Don't forget the role of the Atheist's,,Protestant's,, Catholics,, and the Scientoligists,, Morman's, Episcapaleon, ,,wow, its a big list,, unless u meant by RACE.



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome
don't see a "race" in any groups so far mentioned
except jacob shiff the banker
he was a jewish zionist
he ordered the hits on the czar's family
he made a lot of money from his investment in the revolution...



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: Danbones

"he ordered the hits on the czar's family "

The man was a KING,,
Only reason they Genocided the Monarchy was,,Communist influences,



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: Danbones

my bad,, i always see NAZI's as a RACE.
u know the old days of the NAZI race to world domination,,as a Pure Race.

that was sarcasm about old days,,,its still present.



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 09:51 PM
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Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918)....

....Lenin, whose maternal grandfather, Israel Blank, was Judaic, said that Judaics made the best revolutionaries: "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him." (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p. 112). Lenin was both clever and a revolutionary. He was surely referring to himself.

Researcher Wayne McGuire of Harvard University writes: "Lenin was a Jew by the standards of Israel's Law of Return: he possessed a Jewish grandparent. It would seem that not only was Lenin a Jew, but that he was a Jewish racist and chauvinist, although he kept his ideas on this volatile subject far in the background, probably because they were in radical conflict with the supposed universalism of Marxism. ...Lenin was a Jewish racist who deliberately gave Jews especially, the most 'intellectually demanding tasks.' He admitted that 50% of the communist terrorist vanguard in the south and west of Russia was comprised of Jews."

Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."


www.revisionisthistory.org...

some very pertinent facts and quotes



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 09:54 PM
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Judaic Professor Arno Mayer of Princeton in his important book, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken? states that the German invasion of Russia was carried out with the intention to eradicate Bolshevik (Soviet Communist) ideology. The Germans were hardly the only ones in the West to believe that, "Soviet Russia is a dictatorship of Jewry."

On Feb. 8, 1920 a young British writer made a similar observation in the Illustrated Sunday Herald:

"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."

The writer was Winston Churchill. Though he would later sell his soul for considerably more than thirty pieces of silver, his analysis of the authentic nature of Soviet communism remains trenchant.

Churchill expressed the crucial insight that the crimes perpetrated by Jewish communists against Germans and Russians instilled in those people a desire for retribution:

"In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses.

"The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.

"...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people." (End quote from Churchill).

from the above link, previous post



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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The world banking monopolies tend to fund oligarchy, it's much easier to control the economy this way with puppet dictators than compete in a free market.

That's why communism was pushed in eastern Europe and south America. It was a joint CIA, Jesuit, and central banking agenda.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 02:17 AM
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originally posted by: Danbones

Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918)....

....Lenin, whose maternal grandfather, Israel Blank, was Judaic, said that Judaics made the best revolutionaries: "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him." (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p. 112). Lenin was both clever and a revolutionary. He was surely referring to himself.

Researcher Wayne McGuire of Harvard University writes: "Lenin was a Jew by the standards of Israel's Law of Return: he possessed a Jewish grandparent. It would seem that not only was Lenin a Jew, but that he was a Jewish racist and chauvinist, although he kept his ideas on this volatile subject far in the background, probably because they were in radical conflict with the supposed universalism of Marxism. ...Lenin was a Jewish racist who deliberately gave Jews especially, the most 'intellectually demanding tasks.' He admitted that 50% of the communist terrorist vanguard in the south and west of Russia was comprised of Jews."

Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."


www.revisionisthistory.org...

some very pertinent facts and quotes


Except you're exactly completely 100% provably wrong.

Bourgeois was the term for Jews used by the communists who considered cosmopolitanism a "bourgeois jewish science" they called "rootless cosmopolitanism."

"Rootless cosmopolitan (Russian language: безродный космополит, "bezrodnyi kosmopolit") was a term used during the anti-cosmopolitan campaign in the Soviet Union after WWII. Cosmopolitans were intellectuals who were accused of expressing pro-Western feelings and lack of patriotism. The term "rootless cosmopolitan" is considered to specifically refer to Jewish intellectuals. It first appeared during the campaign in a Pravda article condemning a group of theatrical critics, but was originally coined by the Russian nineteenth-century literary critic Vissarion Belinsky to describe writers who lacked national character."

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 03:44 AM
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originally posted by: BobAthome
a reply to: Danbones

"he ordered the hits on the czar's family "

The man was a KING,,
Only reason they Genocided the Monarchy was,,Communist influences,


yeah, it was a Jewish led revolution and don't you ever doubt it. Lenin was only 1/4 Jew but the rest were Jews.


With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's executive secretary and -- as chairman of the Central Executive Committee -- head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.


And what about the Cheka?


"Anyone who had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the Cheka," wrote Jewish historian Leonard Schapiro, "stood a very good chance of finding himself confronted with, and possibly shot by, a Jewish investigator."20 In Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history.21 (Beginning as the Cheka, or Vecheka) the Soviet secret police was later known as the GPU, OGPU, NKVD, MVD and KGB.)


Over the 17 years after the ousting of the Tzar, 21 Million Russians would of died and all at the hands of the people who brought Communism to Russia.

Jews and the Bolshevik's



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 08:00 AM
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originally posted by: DarknStormy

originally posted by: BobAthome
a reply to: Danbones

"he ordered the hits on the czar's family "

The man was a KING,,
Only reason they Genocided the Monarchy was,,Communist influences,


yeah, it was a Jewish led revolution and don't you ever doubt it. Lenin was only 1/4 Jew but the rest were Jews.


With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's executive secretary and -- as chairman of the Central Executive Committee -- head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.


And what about the Cheka?


"Anyone who had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the Cheka," wrote Jewish historian Leonard Schapiro, "stood a very good chance of finding himself confronted with, and possibly shot by, a Jewish investigator."20 In Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history.21 (Beginning as the Cheka, or Vecheka) the Soviet secret police was later known as the GPU, OGPU, NKVD, MVD and KGB.)


Over the 17 years after the ousting of the Tzar, 21 Million Russians would of died and all at the hands of the people who brought Communism to Russia.

Jews and the Bolshevik's


Again complete crap.

In 1907 78.3% of the Bolsheviks were Russian and 10% were Jewish
en.wikipedia.org...



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