a reply to: burdman30ott6
Where did I "espouse hatred" for the Tea Party? I think the organizers are for the most part shady, sociopaths and douche bags and that it's
largely a fake movement that was created by the Koch Brothers, Dick Armey, the good folks at Fox News, etc and of course Ron Paul, who is imo a joke.
Unfortunately, even my own dear elderly mother self-identifies with the Tea Party. I don't hate the everyday Tea Partiers, I just think that they've
manipulated into buying into a whole lot of BS.
I see no real difference when it comes to taxes between the Democrats and the GOP. Sure, the GOP says they're the party of smaller government and
lower taxes but are they really?
Reagan lowered taxes, including income taxes in 1981, the economy faltered, he raised them in like '83, '85, and '86 and things got back on track,
meanwhile the government grew. The first Bush said "no new taxes," there were in fact, new taxes, and he lost the election, the government grew. His
son cut taxes in 2001, though the Bush Tax cuts disproportionately benefited households making $200k+ and added $1.35 trillion to the national debt.
He cut taxes again in 2003 and we got our checks in 2008 in a failed attempt to ward of recession.. oh and government grew. We blew a bunch of money
in Iraq and Afghanistan, started forking over 100s of billions in bail outs and went into recession ANYWAY. See where it all falls apart is that the
GOP would have you believe that we could save all sorts of money if we just cut off those freeloaders and took out some of those unnecessary
departments/agencies -- then we could pay less taxes and the government would be smaller and it all sounds great.
In actuality, they spend the same, they just invent things like the War on Drugs to spend money on or increase "defense" spending to line the
pockets of defense contractors. The idea of paying lower taxes in of itself is awesome, are you kidding? Who wants to pay taxes? I make a decent
amount of money and I pay a lot of taxes and just like everyone else I think to myself, "damn, what I could with that money I just spent on taxes."
But I'm a realist, and I know that the job situation isn't going to get fixed no matter who is in office based on what both sides have been saying
thus far and we're going to continue to have less and less new jobs year after year because it's not about lazy poor people and it's not about a
lack of education or a lack of American exceptionalism. No amount of praying to the Job Creators is going to fix it, hell the mythical Job Creators
are making more than ever. Like a broken record, the Republicans keep pushing trickle-down economics and the Democrats keep pushing things like
education and job training (training for what?). I will say that I think that encouraging business in new sectors with grants is a better idea than
cutting the corporate tax rate but after Solyndra, nobody has the stomach for it. The real problem as I've noted in posts before is automation.
And it's pretty obvious that many members of what is left of the Tea Party are on to the fact that GOP isn't really going to make good on their
rhetoric either but like OWS throwing in with the Democrats because the Democrats pretend to be kindred spirits, the Tea Party is attached to the
Beyond that, I think that a lot of the Tea Party doctrine is just irrational and let's not forget that the Tea Party has used "taxes" and the
national debt to make all sorts of issues relevant to their cause, such as illegal immigration ("They took our jobs!") and it's disingenuous for
you to try to sum the Tea Party up as simply being about "tax reform" because they're not. Groups describing themselves as "Tea Party" have
gotten involved in a number of purely social issues.
..and of course you like the Koch Brothers.