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We should listen to our Seniors

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posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: tsingtao



i guess you are peter pan? you won't get old? it's mandatory, ya know. growing up is optional. material and money? do you have any now? you good with giving it up in 20yrs? when the next gen wants it?


When/If I become old of age, I will strive to have a more positive outlook on life and more down to earth values then the demographic I was referring to.

What is growing up? Being stressed out all the time and living for materials?

Is seeking spiritual understanding, living in the moment, and sacrificing material goods and money so you can slow down and enjoy life, childish?

I have exactly what I need and no more. My health and my family. The Universe will provide the rest.

In twenty years still, there will be water if God wills it and I won't have much to relinquish.

And I wasn't trying to be offensive with my other two posts, just venting after a crazy day and offering a different outlook. Maybe it was a bit much.


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posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 11:28 AM
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but thanks to tech- we are connecting and empathizing with each other in radically new ways and on a global scale.
a reply to: ltinycdancerg

You guys maybe connecting with each other because of tech but I thing you are wrong about the empathizing bit. The human factor has been taken out of interactions these days. Body language, speech inflections and eye contact all things that aid us in understanding our fellows travelers on the road. I got to straddle the line between cell phones and computers and the days of land lines. Yes we have taken steps forward, but the generation that comes up after yours will be the deciders of how many steps back we took.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: ltinycdancerg
a reply to: masqua
there have always been individuals that see behind the curtain, such as yourself- THANKFULLY!
but thanks to tech- we are connecting and empathizing with each other in radically new ways and on a global scale.


Yep, thanks to old folks who ushered in the tech age so young whippersnappers could communicate, so they can "connect and empathize" with people globally from their gaming console, you're right we're to blame. Instead of channeling this technology towards education we allowed it to take over the living room, bedroom, and everywhere we go. Instead of raising our children with the ethics of studying hard and hard work, we allowed the mentality of "do as little as you can get away with" to prevail. We allowed the food stamp and welfare era to take responsibility instead of the ethics of "work hard, eat well".
We allowed God to be taken out of our public schools, out of every public area, and instead allowed the normalization of pornography. We allowed a culture of abortion to settle in.
So yeah we've screwed some things up for the younger generation. You can blame it on us. We no longer have the values we grew up with. Those are long gone. We do have the experience of knowing what life was like before all of this crept into our society.
This post isn't really directed at you but more in response to yours and others posts blaming the older generation for everything. In a way you're absolutely right.
40 or 50 years from now maybe the younger generation will be blaming You for getting pot legalized. You can't blame that on the old-timers...well, most of them.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: SLAYER69

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

. . . at least . . .

WHEN

they demonstrate that they have LEARNED from the school of hard knocks . . .

WHEN

they demonstrate that they have some HUMILITY about themselves and life . . .

WHEN

they are not brittle, bitter, bonkers . . . stoned or drunk outta their minds . . .

WHEN

they are alert to foundational and eternal priorities and realities.

= = =

Some old people are merely grown old brats. I rarely bother about listening to their blather.

Some old people are still throwing 2 year old tantrums with 2 year old mentalities.

Some old people are addicted to whining and pessimistic complaining 24/7 . . . or at least when they are awake . . . and not catatonic in front of the BOOB TUBE.

Some old people never overcame nor recovered much at all from their huge cases of ATTACHMENT DISORDER.

Some old people have acted and felt like they KNEW IT ALL since they were 12 years old.

Some old people aren't worth listening to.

Some are. Listen to those that are.

BTW, I used to think of 70 as quite old. It's not looking so old now that it's on the near horizon. LOL.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: SLAYER69

Nope doesn't work that way Slayer.

Seniors go straight to "Senior Care"

And children go straight to "Day Care"

No time for the family unit anymore, only time for satisfying and maintaining a decaying way of life.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: SLAYER69
a reply to: candlestick

You could try utilizing 'Self Control" and not click on the thread or to reply



You could try listening to them, or try bettering upon what they have or have not learned...

Love the sentiment but they were, and still are just as dumb as all of us now,

Need a much better approach than HINDSIGHT.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: ltinycdancerg
I welcome wisdom and intelligent discourse/education- HOWEVER...

It is me and my fellow 'youngsters' who are forced to suffer the consequences; lie in the dirty bed made by these such "Seniors"

These seniors created this cluster**** of a world we live in, yet we did not ask nor did we play any part in creating it.

I just love when people say these things.

These seniors had as much to do with creating this cluster**** of a world as you do. What are you doing to stop The Patriot Act, NDAA, NSA warrant-less wiretapping, IRS abuses, forced health insurance participation, militarization of the police, NAFTA, SOPA, illegal foreclosures, corporate bailouts, GMO foods, corrupt politicians, non-stop war, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, assassinations by drone, TSA, and all of the other government intrusions into our lives?

All of these things happened in your time, so if they're guilty, as you say they are, then get in line with them.

True, some are just as dumb as they were 60 years ago, but you can't blame their entire generation for those few unless you blame yourself for the dumbest people in your generation.
edit on 4/19/2014 by AntiNWO because: didn't finish my thought.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: SLAYER69

Wisdom and good advice are where you find it. But old-timers do have the advantage of experience and that we can learn from. All we have to do is get by our impatience and listen.


Thank you, someone gets it



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: BO XIAN

You sound like you speak from experience. I was going to add to that and say that when some people are miserable they have to let everyone else know it. Everyone around them has to be as miserable as they are.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: BO XIAN

You sound like you speak from experience. I was going to add to that and say that when some people are miserable they have to let everyone else know it. [They seem to insist that] Everyone around them has to be as miserable as they are.



ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

And, sadly, they raise kids with the same disposition and verbal whining habits.

And, research seems to indicate that pessimism correlates with poorer health; shorter life; poorer work record etc. . . . and, of course, poorer marriages and life satisfaction. !DOH!

Which means, a greater drain on the health care and welfare systems as well as on all their relatives and friends' teeth.

When such habits are evident in the elderly . . . they seem to worsen with the years. The old whining windbags seem to shrink and implode with the years until they become shriveled-up old prunes with faces like bitterness incarnate and acid tongues . . . wondering incredulously why their kids and grandkids don't come around much.

Other elderly are cheery and seem to get younger and more child-like in good ways, as the years turn over. Not only their kids but neighborhood kids cluster around them wherever they are.

I recall once some elderly home folks telling about some of their charges.

Of course, some of them had strokes which affected their speech patterns and habits.

Old Man Slick Talker--the picture of decorum and propriety in his younger years--particularly on Sonday and in public business dealings and situations--after his stroke, would let loose with the most foul mouthed curses imaginable--quite routinely.

And Old Man Humble Harry also with a similar stroke would let loose with his inner epithets. But his were different:

"OH AMAZING GRACE!"

"OH GLORY!"

"OH HALLELUJAH!"

"OH PRAISE THE LORD!"

Evidently as we age . . . what's inside becomes more evident on the outside.

May it be wisdom, love, humility and caring.

Otherwise . . . the old blokes and bw**ches may end up so isolated, it takes the mailman calling the police to find out the oldster died in front of the TV a week ago.

I think older folks who had it rough and made the best of it regardless . . . with overcoming attitudes and still a good heart toward God and man are well worth listening to. Woe to the idiots too stupid to listen to them.

Some of the others aren't any better to listen to than a pot-head or crack-head.





edit on 19/4/2014 by BO XIAN because: forgot part.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 05:11 PM
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They're all over 100?! If i make it to 100 and i'm like that, i'll be over the moon!

I'm saddened but very lucky enough to still have one grandparent, my grandmother. I'm the youngest of her grandchildren (well, until she got great grandchildren) and we've always been the closest. She always tells me to enjoy my life and stop worrying... It's the type of saying you hear a lot. But i think it holds a lot more weight when it comes from someone who has been through a lot in her 86 years. I'll always value her advice and i always TRY my best to follow it.

Listening to your elders is something you're told to do a lot growing up. Much like other things, you soon realise, upon growing up, they were mostly right all along. But.. C'est La Vie - we have to learn, much like they did.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 07:31 PM
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The key to growing old gracefully is (for me at least):

Be thankful everyday
Count your blessings
Smile at people and accept the same in return
Give without asking for something in return
Be content with what you have
Do not fall into regret about what you don't have
Stay away from negative people
Project yourself positively
Eat organic fresh food
Connect with nature, take a walk, touch a tree (it works)
Look down and ponder the universe at your feet
Look up and be in awe of the majestic

And finally, destroy your ego, it only serves to anchor your self (the you) to this materialistic domain.

People seem to cling onto the life of this world as if it were the only thing yet day in day out the world is decaying and dying around us, recreated again (not reborn) however always moving to the ultimate realisation that eventually everything will come to an end...we are simply too scared or ignorant (or both) to admit this fact.

Take a hard look around you, does anything really stay immortal (apart from your soul) or are you so reliant on outward projections that you have lost a sense of your inward being?

Spiritually we are young, very young, physically we may be getting old and our minds fragmented by the trauma of life but we are first and foremost divine in nature, the day we realise this and stop destroying our souls through neglect and a sinful life (being evil to ourselves, to each other, repeated hatred, enmity, prejudice and a lack of emotion does this) is the day we start to see the reality of this universe and we move beyond mere sticks and stones.

The life of this world is nothing more than a distraction, a convenient delusion that serves only to pull our sight away from the divine and cloud our minds with false ideas and ideologies so that we forget our true nature and purpose.

One of these days I will stop interacting with this board, it will either be because I have forgotten with time or I have passed on from this world.

Peace
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posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 09:32 PM
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I say listen to everyone, and take wisdom as it comes. The old fool is as common as the wise man archetype. Different people have different perspectives and conclusions. Think for yourself and do whats right.




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posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: SLAYER69
Now, before we begin, I know it's just a TV advertisement commercial. If at all possible, ignore that aspect please. I think those giving advise are people we should actually listen to. In this modern world of Google and Microwave instant gratification we've seem to have lost the age old tried and true philosophy of learning from those who came before us. Their successes, failures, accomplishments and discoveries...

Often times these people have a wealth of experience such as living through the Great Depression, World War-I, World War II etc. The video for me doesn't make me want to run out and buy a car but rather, started me thinking about the Seniors I've known in my life and thought of the advise they've often tried to give which more often than not was correct but wasn't at the time followed. As I'm now getting older their words do pop in my head from time to time and I find myself attempting to set aside ego and utilize it more freely.

Do you talk to, respect, listen and take advise from the elders in your life/town/village/community?



Some here may disagree, so be it.


I will say this. Wisdom comes through our own individual consciousness, our consciousness is our experience. This is my 89th reincarnation. The external influence of my enviroment and socetity, has had its changeling effects to that which I had learned and imbibed in my previous lives but cannot completely wipe out that which is within my DNA from those previous experiences. Western wisdom is no where near Eastern Wisdom. If one wants to seek the Truth simply look at not Budhhism but Advaita Vedanta. All is illusion. It's ALL a play of light and elements. Let it play out but stay on the middle path of the SUPREME WITNESS, Awareness. That will take you to the goal of Nirvana. The "I Amness"may seem simple even crude but it will take you to The Ultimate Wisdom of your True Identity. That You are the God of God. All other advice is child's play.



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 06:51 AM
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Awesome replies

i appreciate everyone's reply. It's good to know we can discuss a topic and keep it open minded.



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: candlestick

Guilty.

I am 63 with another birthday coming up. But in my retirement, I have something I did not have at your age. INFORMATION at my fingertips.

My family has become amazed at my transformation.

The brainwashing began early. First most of us boomers were isolated the first six years to home, church, and a dominant father. Usually suffering from PTSD because of WW2.

Then, we walked into school and the first thing I remember is to duck and cover or run for shelter, cause we might get bombed. Did not understand "cold war".

Then, I had to take sewing or cooking or "miss manners" type class where you learned to sit with your legs crossed.

Then, we sent our kin off to a place called Viet Nam, cause of something called the domino effect and spread DEMOCRACY. To end up with an Oligarchy, so sorry.

Then, some of us rebelled, thus started the hippie movement. Anything to piss off the establishment.

If I could change the past, I wish I would have thought for myself.

I hope I have some lessons to pass down to my kids. I know they consult me for decisions and that means they trust my ideas. But I have never forced my ideas on them like our parents did us.



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 08:21 AM
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originally posted by: GoShredAK
a reply to: tsingtao



i guess you are peter pan? you won't get old? it's mandatory, ya know. growing up is optional. material and money? do you have any now? you good with giving it up in 20yrs? when the next gen wants it?


When/If I become old of age, I will strive to have a more positive outlook on life and more down to earth values then the demographic I was referring to.

What is growing up? Being stressed out all the time and living for materials?

Is seeking spiritual understanding, living in the moment, and sacrificing material goods and money so you can slow down and enjoy life, childish?

I have exactly what I need and no more. My health and my family. The Universe will provide the rest.

In twenty years still, there will be water if God wills it and I won't have much to relinquish.

And I wasn't trying to be offensive with my other two posts, just venting after a crazy day and offering a different outlook. Maybe it was a bit much.



don't worry about it.

there is a ways to go yet.

sometimes you will feel like the ball in a pinball machine.

just keep scoring.

and stay young at heart.


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posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: masqua

MY 90 year old aunt is on line everyday.

and all my cousins are in their sixties and seventies, I'm 65, yep we use lap tops tablets and i phones



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: ltinycdancerg
I welcome wisdom and intelligent discourse/education- HOWEVER...

It is me and my fellow 'youngsters' who are forced to suffer the consequences; lie in the dirty bed made by these such "Seniors"

These seniors created this cluster**** of a world we live in, yet we did not ask nor did we play any part in creating it.

So, forgive me in my hesitation to listen when these 'seniors' are speaking...



I hope you do much better.



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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Our generation sang all those revolutionary songs too, My deceased moms generation sang

youtu.be...




Mairzy doats and dozy doats
And liddle lamzy divey
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?
Yes! Mairzy doats and dozy doats
and liddle lamzy divey
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?

If the words sound queer
And funny to your ear,
A little bit jumbled and jivey
Sing "Mares eat oats
And does eat oats
And little lambs eat ivy"

Oh! Mairzy doats and dozy doats
And liddle lamzy divey
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?

However my dad was born in 1904 so I don't know what was popular then.

youtu.be...




1905 IN MY MERRY OLDSMOBILE

youtu.be...




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