“I’m basically kind of deteriorating” after Fukushima radiation exposure - US Naval Officer

originally posted by: crazyewok
Don't think there is enough evidence to say either way.

People don't like that talk around here. Fukushima is most definitely the culprit. Even if there is no evidence to really back up the claim.

www.cbc.ca...

John Smith, a chemical oceanographer at the fisheries department's Bedford Institute of Oceanography in Dartmouth, N.S., who co-authored the report, noted that the radiation levels detected were "extremely low" – far lower than allowable levels in drinking water.

"There's no human health or environmental radiological concerns," he said in an interview with CBC News Halifax.

i think the fukushima legacy has yet to be seen. but it will be.

originally posted by: RoScoLaz
i think the fukushima legacy has yet to be seen. but it will be.

If chronic radiation illnesses were to have occurred in the general populance, you would have seen as much in the days and weeks after the event. No one has of yet died due to massive radiation exposure.

a reply to: Alekto

well that is interesting.

a reply to: RoScoLaz

What's more interesting is that people as far afield as Canada are claiming Fukushima is directly causing them health problems but people closer to home (Tokyo in my case) have no such ailments. I think it says a lot about the pyschology of the individual in question.

a reply to: Alekto

true one's state of mind and pre-determined risks of potential illness can have a psycho-somatic effect.

a reply to: RoScoLaz

I cannot agree more.

On the other end to psychosomatic is "normalcy bias" which even more people suffer from:

The normalcy bias, or normality bias, refers to a mental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. The normalcy bias also causes people to drastically underestimate the effects of the disaster.

en.wikipedia.org... (can check other internet sources, it is basically the same thing - denial that there even is a problem. Is possible people suffering from normalcy bias like to ridicule those who do not have it and see quite clearly what's happening.

Where's a medical degree to diagnose that anyone who suffer from radiation are psychosomatic? (Psychosomatic requires physical ailments to be present) No one claimed anything - is speculation and discussion which is what this forum is supposed to be about - not mocking people who think differently.

That Fukushima blew up is indisputable yet people deny there's any radiation problems even though all those hot particles went somewhere... across the Pacific... to North America... because that's where the prevailing winds take them. Governments and Tepco have been caught in SEVERAL lies yet people think they're just being picked on for no reason. The only problem I have is when some people think their beliefs are more important than others and instead of actually having an intelligent conversation can only throw out insults which reveals a deep lack in maturity.

These were posted previously in several places but bears repeating them for the sake of being informed. In case anyone has an issue with Dr. Busby, the video isn't about him, it's about the analysis of dust from Tokyo confirmed from Fukushima. The rain readings in western Canada were a few months after the explosions. In case anyone likes to use the argument about other reactors - they're all potentially lethal and not clean energy - Fukushima just happens to be the worst with no end in sight....

Busby and Tokyo hot particles:
2012indyinfo.com...

Toxic rain in western Canada:
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: wishes

Stooping to new lows now? Dr Busby is one of Europe’s great anti-radiation cranks.

You might think this is just another scamster taking vulnerable people for a ride but it’s more than that. Busby is thought of seriously in European environmental circles. He’s part of the European Committee on Radiation Risk for example, something that certainly sounds impressive. Until you realise that it’s an entirely unofficial body, cooked up by Green European ministers and that’s it.

He also alleges that the Japanese government is trucking radioactive material from the Fukushima site all over Japan, in order to “increase the cancer rate in the whole of Japan so that there will be no control group” of children unaffected by the disaster, in order to help the Japanese government prevent potential lawsuits from people whose health may have been affected by the radiation.

The guardian don't think a lot of him either. Still, if it's any consolation they probably don't think much of Ben 'a laugh a minute' Fulford either. This goose is cooked, bro.

www.theguardian.com...

Starfish along the west coast are disintegrating.

www.smithsonianmag.com.../smart-news/whats-killing-sea-stars-180951333/

originally posted by: yourmaker
Starfish along the west coast are disintegrating.

www.smithsonianmag.com.../smart-news/whats-killing-sea-stars-180951333/

Really? this is startling news and has never been mentioned anywhere else.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Alekto

Actually it has, and its pretty much a hoax.

a simple google image search on your pics

SHOW NO OFFICIAL LINKS TO THEIR ALLEGED SOURCES

thousands of links

to blogs

conspiracy sites

NO OFFICIAL LINKS TO THEIR ALLEGED SOURCES

just a little more digging, actually almost by accident,

doubtfulnews.com: stop-passing-these-scary-stories-about-fukushima-fish-around-social-media

Nuclear Fallout Map Claim: Message details effects of nuclear fallout from Japan across the western United States. FALSE

Origins: This map showing the projected path of fallout across the western United States following a possible meltdown of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Japan began circulating shortly after a massive 8.9 earthquake hit that country in March 2011. The map bore the logo of the Australian Radiation Services (ARS), an organization which has disclaimed any connection with it:
Australian Radiation Services is aware of information about radioactive contamination being spread from the Japanese nuclear reactor incident released under the ARS logo and name. We wish to be clear that this information has not originated from ARS and as such distance ourselves from any such misinformation.
News accounts reporting on Internet-circulated information about the situation regarding nuclear reactors in Japan noted that:
Some postings were criminally absurd and flat-out wrong.

One map that went viral showed color-coded plumes of radiation moving eastward across the Pacific and the prediction that radiation levels measuring 3,000 rads would reach the Aleutian Island chain in three days. Levels of 1,500 rads will hit the northern coast of British Columbia within a week and western North American "from Alaska to the Baja tip in 10 days, with radiation levels of 750 rads," the posting warned.

These numbers, which would kill or sicken quickly, have absolutely no basis in fact at all. And, according to a radiation expert at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, they are more typical of the levels that might occur after a nuclear attack.
As of 17 March 2011, officials were reporting that any radiation which might reach the U.S. would have "extremely minor health consequences":
A United Nations forecast projects the radioactive plume from the Fukushima facility would reach the Aleutian Islands on Thursday [17 March] and hit Southern California late on Friday [18 March].

The projection, calculated on Tuesday [15 March], gives no information about actual radiation levels. Health and nuclear experts emphasize that radiation in the plume will be diluted as it travels and will have extremely minor health consequences in the United States.

Read more at www.snopes.com...

Fukushima Emergency Claim: Image purportedly shows radioactive seepage spreading across the Pacific Ocean from the Fukushima nuclear plant. FALSE

However, that chart did not actually track or measure radioactive discharge emanating from Fukushima in 2013, or any other aspect of the Fukushima disaster. It was a plot created by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) immediately after the Tohoku earthquake in March 2011 showing the wave height of the tsunami that followed. It had (and has) nothing to do with the flow or spread of radioactive seepage from Fukushima.
Read more at www.snopes.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also. it was only one type of starfish, mentioned not every kind and this was not sourced to anything credible. Also, starfish melt when they die... this is what happens when a starfish dies. Ask any aquarium owner who has tried their hand at starfish. Very easy to kill.

a reply to: Alekto

How about discussing the results posted of the testing of the dust instead of just slamming the tester and stay on topic. Is irrelevant what anyone (you) thinks of the guy, it is the results of the dust tested that the post was about - as was specified in that post and obviously by-passed by you on purpose. I suppose you are going to say the machine that read the contents of the dust from an air filter in Tokyo is rigged too and that Fukushima is just blowing harmless bubbles, lolol.

I have to sit undecided.

For what it may be worth to add, I found another source about this (a few actually) and after doing a bit of reading here, found enough to add. I think this at least gives a bit more context to what some of these guys are saying for their claims and they made very well have a good point, I'd say.

First, one off the U.S.S. Reagan, where they were apparently drinking, bathing in and cooking with contaminated water for a period of time before ship's command came across saying to stop for the exposure issues. Umm.. oops, if all true.

The Reagan passed through debris as far as the eye could see: wood, refrigerators, car tires, roofs of houses with people riding on them. Hair was told they were five to 10 miles off the coast from Fukushima, which had been damaged by a massive tsunami spawned by the quake.

Sailors were drinking desalinated seawater and bathing in it until the ship’s leadership came over the public address system and told them to stop because it was contaminated, Hair said. They were told the ventilation system was contaminated, and he claims he was pressured into signing a form that said he had been given an iodine pill even though none had been provided. As a low-ranking sailor, he believed he had no choice.

THAT close isn't what I'd heard or have saved in material from the time. THAT close would damn sure have been right IN the plume rolling out to sea. It went 100 miles or more and with quite a diameter at the height of the early stages.

More from the one this thread started about tho....Wow... So THIS is what he was doing to get contaminated so far away. Now it makes more sense...and also, how the exposure impact is odd compared to conventional exposures. I mean, the US and Russia are, together, the most experienced in the world with accidents and what deliberate or purely catastrophic exposure looks and feels like. It's happened enough by both causes in the decades since the atom got weaponized.

Shortly after the disaster, Senior Chief Mike Sebourn was sent from his home base, Naval Air Facility Atsugi, to Misawa Air Base, 200 miles from the faltering power plant. As a designated radiation decontamination officer, he dealt with aircraft and personnel that had flown into the area.

Sebourn, with only two days of training, was tasked with testing seven points on an aircraft’s skin for radiation. He and others crawled all over the crafts for months, he said, with only gloves for protection. At one point, he said, they took the radiator out of one aircraft and tested it. The radiation was four times greater than what should have required them to wear a suit and respirator, he said.

Source: Stars and Stripes

Wow... Thinking back to things like Agent Orange and other 'oooops...but we didn't think...' moments? That sounds so typical and likely to have happened from Uncle Sam. Our feeble minded old coot of a manger in this country. The truth just about follows the image, too.

I hope these guys have what they seek. The chance to establish what happened on the record, and the outcome of funding to help with treatment for all those impacted in medical ways.

The first of the 71 USS Ronald Reagan sailors suing TEPCO has died from a rare form of cancer.

Edward Holcomb was buried with military honours.

May he rest in peace.

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