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greencmp
Interesting that ATS isn't blocked in Russia, hmmm?
VirusGuard
reply to post by Soshh
Please point out in history the last time a large army invaded a country, didn't level a town or shoot a shoot and ran back across the border
zilebeliveunknown
SLAYER69
reply to post by zilebeliveunknown
This was posted so members of various opinions can discuss the topic freely not for some sort of half assed psychological evaluation of what you think someone may or may not have fallen for.
edit on 17-4-2014 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)
That's exactly what I did.
I laid my opinion that you fell for media spin, OR, you deliberately posted this thread to fool people who aren't educated enough on the matter so they can draw conclusion in favor on one side only.
But in the end it's quite simple.
There were Russian troops legally stationed in Crimea before this mess even started. And that fact alone could explain how this article doesn't hold water.
ETA: Media spins are psychological games.edit on 17-4-2014 by zilebeliveunknown because: (no reason given)
VirusGuard
reply to post by Soshh
maybe Putin had not seen the pictures when he said "local militias" because he knew his men were not fighting in the country and when he did see the pictures he said they "were Russian soldiers" because he realized they were part of the 25,000 that are allowed to be in the Ukraine.
Please point out in history the last time a large army invaded a country, didn't level a town or shoot a shoot and ran back across the border.
VirusGuard
reply to post by PutAQuarterIn
Maybe the same reason our press forgot to mention that Russia by law has always had troops in the area like what happened at the start of this conflict but now we all know better.
I can show you pictures of American military bases all over Europe and convince half the population that we are being invaded because half the public don't even know they are here.
Did Hitler remove/hide his troops the next day like we are being lead to believe happened in the Ukraine, apples and oranges
zilebeliveunknown
reply to post by Soshh
I don't know why you're stuck on 'little green men'.
It is entirely irrelevant what Putin or anyone else have said.
What is important is that we here on ATS already knew who 'little green men' were by simply using logic.
Soshh
Shots were fired during the annexation of Crimea. Sorry, even the Ruskies aren't that good.
VirusGuard
Yes but i am not talking about farmers shooting pheasants.
VirusGuard
To date I have seen no proof of where or when the pictures were taken and in this day and age if a Russian army had gone into a major town pointing guns then someone would had recorded the events on a mobile phone.
Soshh
zilebeliveunknown
reply to post by Soshh
I don't know why you're stuck on 'little green men'.
It is entirely irrelevant what Putin or anyone else have said.
What is important is that we here on ATS already knew who 'little green men' were by simply using logic.
I am perplexed. Back in the real world (where I am from), what the Russian President says -and why he has said it- is far more important than what members of a conspiracy website think. Why don't you want to talk about it?
the owlbear
reply to post by SLAYER69
I wonder when Obama will go on tv for a q and a saying CIA goons were hanging out EVERYWHERE in the Ukraine stirring the pot.
Actually, I dont because the answer is never.
originally posted by: ElohimJD
zilebeliveunknown
SLAYER69
reply to post by zilebeliveunknown
This was posted so members of various opinions can discuss the topic freely not for some sort of half assed psychological evaluation of what you think someone may or may not have fallen for.
That's exactly what I did.
I laid my opinion that you fell for media spin, OR, you deliberately posted this thread to fool people who aren't educated enough on the matter so they can draw conclusion in favor on one side only.
But in the end it's quite simple.
There were Russian troops legally stationed in Crimea before this mess even started. And that fact alone could explain how this article doesn't hold water.
ETA: Media spins are psychological games.
There were Russians stationed on the Russian base in Crimea, and had legal jurisdiction only on the base. Then troops began showing up without any national markings throughout the entirety of Crimea, that Russia claimed were "Crimea Militia Forces", on Ukraine soil (off the Russian base), this would be illegal if those troops were Russian (thus the lacking national markings), to admit those "unmarked" troops were Russian Military forces on Ukrainian soil (outside of the base jurisdiction) proves the act illegal.
Just because the US has a base in Okinawa, does not mean that can occupy the whole of Kyushu, and all cities therein founded upon sovereign Japanese soil. Their jurisdiction is the base limits.