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There is a big difference between the type of situations she is dealing with, and the kinds you described.
The parents that just want to get rid of the troublesome teen were a huge problem, my mother used to tell me when she worked for a while in a private psych hosp. Sometimes it was just that the parents found out a kid tried some weed once, and they wanted them locked up. Sometimes it was perfectly good kids, just with screwed up parents. They were there, with the insurance paying big bucks, for years.
She found that scandalous, but sometimes said the kids were better off being protected from the idiotic parents, who were also forced to come in for therapy with them- which they wouldn't do otherwise.
reply to post by KyoZero
there is so much I'd like to say in regard to the mental health system - being a psychiatric nurse, in both the private and state-run hospitals - but, it is late, so I will be brief.
There is a portion of the population that society should have a moral compunction to take care of -
The schizophrenic and bipolar people - who by no way have had any responsibility for causing their own "illness" - and the people who are less likely to attempt to try to get help for themselves -
These are the people you see on the street - talking to themselves - the scared/paranoid/delusional - and least likely to want medication or having "services" to keep them in a clean home, good food and hygiene, medications that can stem their symptoms, and = most importantly - keep them from being victimized by others.
These people are why I went into nursing and psychiatric medicine.
In the 30 years I have been in nursing - I've seen lots of changes.
Many people bleeding the system - both the legal system and the welfare system.
Big pharma is one of the biggest problems.
It's late - I need to go to bed - this issue is very complicated - and I see the people who desperately need services the most, being pushed aside for the more "political" and "profitable" greed of others.
reply to post by candlestick
Actually it was the best paying job I ever had. The pay was significantly higher than your typical CNA job. Plus I could put in all the overtime I liked so I was averaging about 20-30 hours a week of double time pay. It was bureaucracy that was the problem.
No no no no...I said those people who visited the "hospital" didn't paid enough money to the "hospital"...
Out here in Calif they will only commit people that come under the state 5150 laws.
Then its only till they get the persons Mental Health problem under control with medications.
At that point they kick them out the door with a 30 day supply of medications no referral for treatment or script for more medication.
Many have been so out of it they can not hold a job or go through the system to get SSD/SSDI and they get no help from the state doctors in filing the needed records to get disability.
At the end of the 30 days they have no way to get meds and go back through the system.
This makes for great job security for the doctors working for the system.
In many cases the Mental Health hospital the person was taken to is in the county seat and people from other areas of the county are left on the street with no way to get home.
originally posted by: candlestick
^market expansion method
Win-Win business,parents get rid of their kids ,more thoughtcrime been invented.Thus industrial developing,economic growth.
originally posted by: cosmicexplorer
reply to post by KyoZero
Great post... I have had some personal experience myself on both ends....after my best friend offed himself and I found him dead I needed a little counseling. As I went in they basically told me I was normal and shouldn't come in any more. Several years later I was involved in another high trauma experience and went in again. They told me there was really nothing they could do for me as they couldnt place me in any category.
I can say that through my time in the military and in law enforcement...every near death experience and life ive taken has completely changed who I am.
I was voted "best personality" in high school and I now shop at night to avoid human contact. Every time I have attempted to go in to counseling they tell me im fine..perhaps because I put on a show...ive now just accepted that I dont need people. ATS is kind of my outlet for communication. But I dont enjoy human contact...not even sex anymore....or anything. Id like to be more social again but I dont see how..and luckily with the internet I have some way to remain human.