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AutumnWitch657
reply to post by Krazysh0t
And you don't see the victim mentality in that ? They don't have our best interest at heart. Thats what you state. Why do you feel they should? Why do you need them to? Can't you take care of yourself. Isn't that the best course of action?' Better than thinking oh my they're all against me.
Mckenna is on our side, trust me.
This explosive audio clip that was just brought to my attention today by “Scott” reveals, in Terence McKenna’s own words, that he was in fact an agent. The audio clip comes from Dec. 1994 from his lecture at the Esalen Institute which may be found below in full. As I wrote on August 28, 2012, in my article: How Darwin, Huxley, and the Esalen Institute launched the 2012 and psychedelic revolutions – and began one of the largest mind control operations in history. Source:
We finally have the conclusion to what happened to Terence after the FBI had caught him:
Questioner: I’m real curious about one thing. Why is it important for you to do this?
Terence McKenna: I wonder myself. You mean am I the alien ambassador whether I like it or not? [laughs]. Well, often when asked this question, I’ve said it beats honest work. I mean, my brother is a PhD in three subjects and works in hard science and yet I don’t think it’s brought him immense happiness. Not that he’s despondent. But I was always kind of a slider. You know?
And certainly when I reached La Chorerra in 1971 I had a price on my head by the FBI, I was running out of money, I was at the end of my rope. And then “THEY” recruited me and said, “you know, with a mouth like yours there’s a place for you in our organization“. And I’ve worked in deep background positions about which the less said the better. And then about 15 years ago they shifted me into public relations and I’ve been there to the present.
Terence McKenna appears to admit to being an agent
Additional research in this regard is laid out in the Brain research database – which reveals many dozens of connections in the McKenna/Huxley and Darwin nexus, leading into eugenics and population control. The database and its 6000+ citations, with INSTRUCTIONS of how to study it, maybe found here.
Following up with the above papers and database leads, recently I filed a Freedom of Information Act request on Terence Kemp McKenna (amongst others) with the CIA. The response came back that it’s “classified” information, and that “Our processing included a search for records that would reveal an openly acknowledged agency affiliation”, and stated that I must file an appeal for further information.
The CIA’s Terence McKenna FOIA request response – “positive Agency affiliation” – “classified”
Decline in Morals and Values
Public Health
Political Corruption
Unemployment
Inflation
Urban decay
Inferior Technology
Military Spending
Past presidents of the United States and other high profile political leaders have repeatedly issued warnings over the last 214 years that the U.S. government is under the control of an “invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.”
According to six of our former presidents, one vice-president, and a myriad of other high profile political leaders, an invisible government that is “incredibly evil in intent” has been in control of the U.S. government “ever since the days of Andrew Jackson” (since at least 1836). They “virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties… It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”
As a result, “we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”
“A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves, consisting of many and various powerful interests, combined in one mass, and held together by the cohesive power of the vast surplus in banks.” – John C. Calhoun, Vice President (1825-1832)
“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”— Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States
From Washington to JFK: Former Presidents Warn About Illuminati
hounddoghowlie
reply to post by ZeuZZ
just stop, you know exactly whats was being done and don't play the sources and that kind of game. you have it from the horses mouth.
he revealed it himself.
or are you saying that this lecture is just a pieced together sound bites. it is a known fact that he gave this talk and there were many in attendance.
so you tell me why would he say that he worked for them, if he didn't. and if he didn't wouldn't saying that make him a liar and should you trust anything he said, after knowing that he told that big of a whopper.
Murgatroid
So what about Jesus, JFK, George Washington, Woodrow Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, and Benjamin Disraeli?
Were they ALSO full of "crap?"
SERIOUSLY?
IF there's no shadow government, why would JFK lay his life on the line to warn us about a 'monolithic and ruthless conspiracy'?
Why would Danny Casolaro expose "The Octopus" at the cost of his own life if there were no shadow government?
If there's no shadow government, WHO exactly is the ‘The Secret Team’ that Fletcher Prouty wrote about?
And why would George Washington warn us that the Illuminati wanted to separate the people from their Government?
What was the "Invisible Empire" that Woodrow Wilson spoke of?
Why would Theodore Roosevelt AND Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. both risk their reputations talking about "An Invisible Government" if one did not in fact exist?
Why would Ralph Epperson and Benjamin Disraeli talk about an ’The Unseen Hand’ if it were just some theory?
Past presidents of the United States and other high profile political leaders have repeatedly issued warnings over the last 214 years that the U.S. government is under the control of an “invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.”
According to six of our former presidents, one vice-president, and a myriad of other high profile political leaders, an invisible government that is “incredibly evil in intent” has been in control of the U.S. government “ever since the days of Andrew Jackson” (since at least 1836). They “virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties… It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”
As a result, “we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”
“A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves, consisting of many and various powerful interests, combined in one mass, and held together by the cohesive power of the vast surplus in banks.” – John C. Calhoun, Vice President (1825-1832)
“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”— Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States
From Washington to JFK: Former Presidents Warn About Illuminati
ZeuZZ
Most people involved in a conspiracy would not openly state things like this in-front of a microphone or an audience.
I simply couldn't digest that the 60's counter culture revolution was started by the CIA. All those hippies, drugs and free sex was another way for the powers that be to manage a chunk of the population so that they thought other people's ideas were their own when in fact institutions like the Esalen Institute peddle these memes or cultural movements and are even responsible for propagating the 2012 date as a point of cyclical change. It can lead to large groups of people becoming ineffective dreamers. The New Age movement has been susceptible to this and has handed over much over their sovereignty and dignity to channelled messages (though they are interesting to analyse for meta narratives and obvious manipulation)
It's hard to grasp why something so convincing could contain falsehoods but I can rattle off a number of issues that corroborate McKenna as CIA collaborator and cultural narrative driver.
Terence McKenna's CIA Collaboration
ZeuZZ
Are they controlling the world now?! Please state who you think is controlling the world now.
One group and one group alone is responsible for virtually all wars and bloodshed on the face of this planet. The Synagogue of Satan
"We cannot understand the world until we appreciate that most leaders are traitors and that mankind is victim of a diabolical conspiracy on an unspeakable scale. It's time we stopped fighting each other and addressed the real enemy." ~ Henry Makow
You still have not given evidence of what his agenda is, even though he said this (which I do not dispute) you still neeed to show evidence as to why this fits into a conspiracy theory. Most people involved in a conspiracy would not openly state things like this in-front of a microphone or an audience. The floor is yours. Go.
A DENIAL of FOIA RESPONSIVE documents does not mean that they didn’t find anything. It means they found classified documents that they cannot send, and are waiving the law around as justification, and therefore they denied my request and said that I could APPEAL their decision within 45 days. If there was nothing found, there would be no “openly acknowledged Agency affiliation” to reveal, nor would there be a request to deny, much less any need to appeal such! A basic understanding of the English language and fallacious logic is key to understanding this document. Hopefully the above glossary helps.
“you know, with a mouth like yours there’s a place for you in our organization
network dude
Yea, I joined the masons so I could rule the world. Instead, I get to rule the kitchen, but then, only when the dishes are dirty.
The people who think secret societies rule the world, haven't put much critical thinking into it.
randyvs
reply to post by ZeuZZ
If overarching conspiracies are crap, then the same goes for good ideas.
It's really that simple.