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Swiss Plan to Pay Basic Income – Regardless of Job

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posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Flat tax on sales would solve some of that maybe? If we stopped trying to deliver democracy to people who want nothing to do with it would free up plenty! If we brought our military expenses down to be more in line with what other countries are allocating in their budgets it would help! If we closed the million and one loopholes that allow the big corps to skate away free it wouldn't be so burdensome! If we sold off all that technology that they are using to monitoring our every move to russia it would help!




posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 07:54 AM
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I think it would boil down to people getting bored, once those people are really bored, jobs will be taken up, those who want to be brain surgeons will be, likewise piano tuners, etc., boys and girls who like huge machines, tunnel borers, twenty blade ploughs, strip miners, will be happy at last!



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 08:31 AM
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Just for the record. That $25/hr in Switzerland is equivalent to $10/hr in the USA as goods are much more expensive in Switzerland.



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

Back in the 80's Reader's Digest placed the value of the benefits that are given to the "poor" at around $10 an hour!
It's probably quite a bit more now!



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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With the prospect of a robot revolution just around the corner doing all the manual labor jobs, government has to come up with some sort of income solutions for people who will be displaced by robots. Now with this big juicy carrot, they can get people to participate in voting and other civic duties and also report in for regular health screenings, and for those who can't figure out why, its for absolute individual identification.



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: DeadSeraph
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The interesting thing about this idea is it's potential. Right wingers will point to it and say it's unsustainable and yammer on about welfare and their own wallets and working hard and blah blah blah, but what they will probably miss is what could happen once the dust settles and this system is in place for awhile.

People will gravitate towards ingenuity. In a purely capitalist society, ingenuity doesn't mean much if you don't have the capital to not only turn your ideas into a viable business model, but also to sustain yourself while you further develop those ideas. I honestly believe that a system like this will allow people to naturally gravitate towards societal contributions they are passionate about. There will of course be an adjustment period and people will likely take some time to figure out what they want to do in life or just relax, but eventually they will get tired of sitting around having their rent paid for them and will naturally gravitate towards either increasing their income or (if they are comfortable with their standard of living) finding ways to find fulfillment in other aspects of life, be it through volunteer work or entrepreneurial pursuits.

The funny thing about the natural reaction to this idea from right wingers is that they will criticize it while constantly talking about freedom. Well what happens when you give everyone true freedom? I think the Swiss economy could suffer initially, but will eventually explode. Human ingenuity knows no bounds, and once it is freed and people are able to focus on their natural inclinations instead of how they will put bread in their baskets, we will see another renaissance.

The Swiss are not stupid people and have done extremely well for themselves. Their ideas have not always been conventional but they have largely benefited Swiss society. If anything, this will be an extremely interesting case study of alternative ways of viewing economic growth in about 25 years.


You honestly think that these people are all full of economy exploding genius and it is the lack of public funding that keeps them from fulfilling their potential? LOL. The passionate innovators innovate without handouts. Those who wait to be supported before they can innovate are not the innovators that would "explode an economy." Sure, they may peruse a passion for finger-painting if they didn't have to work to live, but they are not going to innovate an economy--those type of people don't wait for a handout in order to peruse their dream--they already are.



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