NEWS: UPDATE: Ukraine's Yushchenko demands prosecution of 'separatist governors'

The Ukrainian Parliament has declared the results of the presidential election invalid. It opens the door to the possibility that a new vote could be scheduled. The vote however is non binding. The Ukrainian government has come under scrutiny and pressure to examine the allegations of massive fraud and corruption. Both side have warned about the possibility of civil war and the results of the election has provoked outrage and civil disobedience amongst the population.

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UPDATE 11/28/04: Ukraine's Yushchenko demands prosecution of 'separatist governors'
The pro-Western opposition leader, Viktor Yushchenko, has called for a criminal inquiry over the threats leveled by pro-Russian governors to split off from Ukraine.



This is a good move by the parliament in Ukraine. There are simply too many questions about the process to allow the vote to stand. Russia is the only country actively supporting the alleged victor in the race, and Ukraine could find itself isolated politically if the election is allowed to stand. It remains to be seen if the alleged “president” elect will allow another vote.

[edit on 11/27/04 by FredT]

[edit on 11/28/04 by FredT]

[edit on 11/28/04 by FredT]

The Ukrainian Supreme Court is to rule on an appeal by Yushchenko on Monday, Yanukovych will not be inaugurated before that appeal is decided.

With such large numbers of Ukrainians, State run TV, and many varied supporters it is certainly setting up a difficult situation for the court to rule on.

The best outcome seems to be another election - will this decision be based on rule of law or as I suspect on political expediency.

You never know though. Russia seems to be heavily involved in this and with the concern over his consolidation of power it is VERY concerning. Could we be seeing the attempt to recreate a defacto USSR by simply placing friendly governemnts in former USSR states? Perhaps.

Fred T I think uve hit the nail on the head. The Ukraine has large reserves, of oil, coal and gas which Putin does not want to let fall into the hands of an independant Ukranian government as no doubt the prices for these commodities and the way in which they operate with a view to mother Russia would change quite dramatically. I have watched many news interviews with Ukranian public on the streets and the consensus seems to be that they have finally had enough of Russian totalitarian rule over their country by the proxy governments they have installed time and time again.

However more worrying are the signs that if this dispute is not sovled many mayors of towns and cities may push for a seprerate state or to join with Romania and declare independance from the Iron grip of Putin and Russia. I hope things change for the better in this beautifull and little know country, much like the other balkan countries, but I fear that there may be much bloodshed and violence before this coutry can move on from the quagmire it is in at the moment. If we have any Ukranian members on site, I would be very gratefull to hear their views of the curent situation and how they wouldlike things to be resolved.


[edit on 27-11-2004 by radiant_obsidian]

Thats a great point. If you look at where the independant states have gone to ie: lots of countries with "stan" on the end they chose U.S. companies to work with not Yukos or others. Also there seems to be a reaching out by these states the US in general. Putin may fear a further expansion of NATO towards Russia..

Your right again I think FredT

If you take a look at the position of the Ukraine, it is one of the last frontiers between the West and old Russia, it would therefore make sense that Mother russia wants to protect herself and her last remaining bastions of influence and power in europe. Im currently expecting the rhetoric from Putin to become more and more aggressive and desperate as the situation spirals beyond even his considerable control and that of his Spetsnaz troops already deployed covertly in the region. Just look at the sheer amounts of protestors on the streets talking like this:



This quote was taken directly from a female protestor interviewed by Uk channel 4 reporters only yesterday. It shows just what is really happening in the Ukraine at the moment and how passionately the people believe in this.

On the other side, the protestors for the Russian backed PM were ordered onto the streets and told to board buses to Kiev by their managers and bosses at the coal mines in the east, these protestors totalled a mere 5,000, and were dissparate and almost listless before their disputed leader arrive to talk and address them. Compare this to the outpurings from the heart of over 250, 000 protestors rilling agains Rusian rule and control.......I think there will be great changes to come in the next weeks and days of Ukranian history and hope that they find the independance and solidarity that they seek so badly.

If my views offend anyone, Im sorry, but I feel very, very passiontely about this situation and wont apologise for speaking my mind.

[edit on 27-11-2004 by radiant_obsidian]

[edit on 27-11-2004 by radiant_obsidian]

updating:


Ukaraine President Says Compromise Needed

I think Ukraine deserved to get the new elections but I got the idea that president Kuchma wants to postpone it as long as is possible. Does he hide "emergency backup" plan?

The pro-Western opposition leader, Viktor Yushchenko, has called for a criminal inquiry over the threats leveled by pro-Russian governors to split off from Ukraine.

That is wrong move - IMHO. Now is a time for peace talks, not the time for making more people angry. This is not a good sign - I'm afraid Yushchenko's call can make him more enemies that supporters

November 29.

www.news.com.au...

This situation is moving quickly and getting more unstable by the day.

Sanc'.

Its really starting to look like the winner in this will be who ever the military supports. Beyond that there seems to be a growing danger that a full scale civil war may erupt at any moment. Kiev is reapidly becomming a flashpoint as more and more citizens show up to protest.

more news:

Ukraine is on verge of abyss, law must be restored urgently - Yanukovych:



It doesn't look like we could see the peaceful ending there I'm afraid. More anger, more frustration and nobody seems to try to quiet it down

Ukraine Opposition Ups Pressure Amid Autonomy Moves:


link

The separation of Ukraine seems to be eminent - Polish president Aleksander Kwasniewski, who travelled to Ukraine as a mediator between the opposition said he fears there won't be any chance to hold Ukraine together. Unless? Is there any possibility to avoid the civil war or internal split ?

sorry forgot the link..

[edit on 28-11-2004 by jazzgul]

Another update: News:




This one is still developing I believe....