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Unidentified Fighter Jets Open Fire On Kramatorsk Airfield, Casualties Reported

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posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 12:38 PM
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I am not sure if this can be verified but Zero Hedge is aggregating reports of unidentified fighter jets opening fire on Kramatorsk airfield and casualties have been reported. I hope this isn't confusion related to the Syrian helicopter which was being portrayed as Russian in another thread.




Things in east Ukraine have spiraled out of control. Moments ago Itar Tass reported that there has been a shoot out at the separatists-controlled airport in the city of Kramatorsk where according to on the ground witnesses, four Su-27 fighter jets have allegedly opened fire at the local airfield. It is unclear who the unidentified warplanes belong to although Itar Tass notes that one of the jets was allegedly taken down, so there should be confirmation shortly. Eyewitnesses also add that there are victims and an ambulance has been sent to the scene.

Itar-Tass also adds that according to the newspaper "News Kramatorsk" three helicopters were circling over Kramatorsk.

Elsewhere, RIA adds that Ukraine troops have now successfully regained control of the same airport.

Here is a photo of one of the fighters seen circling above Kramatorsk.

www.zerohedge.com...


This is quite the escalation if true.

My guess is that it was a Russian jet but it could be a Ukrainian plane participating in the crackdown on pro-Russia citizens. At this point I don't even know if it's true so it's to early for me to commit to any solid theories.

Hopefully this calms down if it does in fact turn out to be true.
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posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 12:41 PM
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There is a story about a incident from Syria that is being used in the Ukraine situation ..Not saying your story relates to it but it's on another thread ..a bit of confusion at the moment ..
ETA link to other thread www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 12:43 PM
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I found this:

Shots are being fired at the airdrome near the city of Kramatorsk, Donetsk Oblast, and one fighter plane has been shot down, witnesses report from the scene.
As follows from what the people say four fighter planes, presumably Sukhoi-27 were hovering over Kramatorsk. At a certain point they opened fire at the local airdrome. Who commanded the planes and who downed the fighter remains unclear. Witnesses claim there have been casualties at the airdrome. An ambulance is on the way to the scene.

en.itar-tass.com...

Seems to early to really know what's going on, but if it did happen I'm sure more will come out soon.



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 12:45 PM
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Yes, I had actually just posted this article in that thread.

I have also edited the OP so it mentions that this may be related to the confusion in regards to that thread.

Some clarification on these claims would be great but Zero Hedge and Itar Tass seem to be the only outlets reporting what I have presented in the OP so at this point I am doubtful until I come across more solid evidence or some type of admission.



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 12:47 PM
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MSM will say that this is a pro Russian nationalist attack... Probably.... ;-)

Then again... Depends where you live i suppose... Those darned Ruskie pinko commies... Huh?

How sad!!!

Kindest respects

Rodinus



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 12:49 PM
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I know what people say about CNN, but on the ticker at the bottom I just saw it say that the Ukraine has taken back the Kramatorsk airfield, but no mention of anything being shot down.



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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Some genuine footage of the downed aircraft would be help get rid of the suspense...

I am also combing multiple news sources for any type of confirmation.



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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this is a link to another thread that was earlier that has some live feed links about whats going on ..you might want to skim through it www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 12:58 PM
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I have a feeling this was a previously uninvolved nation/faction/party. Probably the one REALLY responsible for this mess.



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 01:00 PM
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I have several possible theories as well but don't want to waste time elaborating on them until the actual claims in the report can be verified. The last thing I want to do is post another Ukraine/Russia doom porn thread...hopefully we can either declare this as a hoax or verify it to be true as there is a lot of misinformation floating around today...



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 01:21 PM
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Al Jazeera's Kim Vinnell, reporting from the ground on Tuesday, said military aircraft were despatched from Izyum to Kramatorsk to bring the seized airfield there back under the government control.

Russian media was circulating unconfirmed reports of casualties. Russian news agency Itar-Tass later reported, citing witnesses from the scene, that one of four Ukrainian military jets has been shot down.


However, Oleksandr Turchynov, Ukraine's acting president said Kramatorsk airfield was regained from pro-Russian armed rebels, Interfax news agency reported.

There were also reports of Ukrainian military vehicles entering the eastern city of Slovyansk.

www.aljazeera.com...
Seems there are other news agencies using the reports from the Russians on this, so I don't know.

Maybe Russian propaganda? Ukrainian?

Don't really want to speculate too much at this point.
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posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 01:37 PM
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This is a hard one to follow considering that we are seeing bit's of news from different times and places being stitched together .One thing about it we should have a lot of mental pic's floating around in our own minds to make us "say what" ... I had to do a couple takes already this morning sifting through the threads ....



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 01:43 PM
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The propaganda is absolutely ridiculous at this point. We need an army of Ukrainian citizens on the ground reporting what is ACTUALLY happening. At this point - a fighter jet probably was shot down IMO. One of the Eastern cities is rumored to be equipped with Anti-tank weapons, RPG's, and the like as well. That one surely will not fall without some bloodshed,...All i know is, the casualities on both sides need to stay low or this whole thing is going to spiral out of control.



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 01:49 PM
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posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 02:00 PM
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Video

Video 2

It's a Ukrainian Flanker.

Not sure why there's so much confusion.
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posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 02:07 PM
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Corruption Exposed
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I am also combing multiple news sources for any type of confirmation.


Try using something other than Google to do research because if they don't want you to see something then you won't

True or not we all know it's only a matter of time before we will get clashes so like you I am keeping an eye out for this one.



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 02:08 PM
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The confusion seems to be in regards to another thread which portrayed a Syrian helicopter being taken down as part of the Russia/Ukraine conflict.

I cannot watch the videos you provided but will provide my opinion once I have done so.

Cheers.



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 02:43 PM
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The first one is a member of the Flanker family, but the second is an SU-25 Frogfoot. It's the Russian equivalent to the A-10.



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 05:30 PM
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Finally going to let the American armchair warriors respond to this thread as just checked through a couple of other related threads and apparently only people from the good ol U S Of A are intelligent enough to respond... Anyone else should just shut up!.. Look at other threads before answering my post please?

Remember the song... WE ARE THE WORlD??????
Kindest respects

Rodinus



posted on Apr, 15 2014 @ 06:50 PM
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SNIP

Maybe they will stop by with some info...

 



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