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originally posted by: Rocker2013
4. Ukraine already has the support of numerous nations around the world, and they will rally to help the country back onto its feet. The same cannot be said of Russia. It supposedly has China, but even China is not willing to support Russia openly at the UN.
originally posted by: ColCurious
I was talking about the Ukrainians (as in the Ukrainian-people) not the Illegitimate Government in Kiev.
True, the Government has support... but what about the PEOPLE?
originally posted by: ColCurious
All they have for now is:
Their constitution infringed
originally posted by: ColCurious
their Nation torn apart
originally posted by: ColCurious
a Government they didn't elect
originally posted by: ColCurious
and that Government already passes austerity bills demanded by the IMF.
originally posted by: Rocker2013
Oh, the Constitution that their corrupt and criminal leader Yanukovych changed fundamentally without public support or consultation? You mean THAT constitution?
originally posted by: Rocker2013
[their Nation torn apart] By Russian forces invading Crimea and E Ukraine, pretending they weren't, and encouraging minority factions to overthrow those elected regional governments?
originally posted by: Rocker2013
You can't have it both ways, you can't possibly whine about the Kiev government being illegitimate (despite the fact that the elected politicians are STILL THERE, after voting to remove the leader who opened fire on his own people then ran away after allegedly agreeing to a compromise for fresh elections), while ignoring the fact that Russia has supported more criminal (as recognized under international law) military interference in regional governments of Ukraine.
originally posted by: Rocker2013
Their elected government is still in place, having removed their leader by democratic vote. There is also an election planned, but you don't want to recognize these facts because they weaken your position.
originally posted by: Rocker2013
Like it or not, Ukraine is in economic trouble [...]
originally posted by: Rocker2013
I'm no fan of the IMF, but just like many other knee-jerk anti-American's and pro-Russians you are carefully constructing your own reality to suit your opinions. Everything you've said about Ukraine is so far wrong, factually wrong. You can try and twist reality to suit your argument all you like, but your opinions on this do not change the actual reality.