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What is this never ending bull about 'your rights' when confronted by a police officer? You have the right to do as you are told-to answer the questions put to you.
Just how the confrontation goes is totally up to you-the officer is going to react to your reactions as he/she has been trained.
If you start to try to influence the situation by informing the officer of 'your rights' all that is going to happen is you spend the night in the tank.
If you produce ID when told to and answer questions when told to if you don't pose a threat or have outstanding warrants you will be allowed to go your way. If you approach the situation in a mature, noncombatant way normally you will be allowed to call some one to get your automobile before it is towed-saving yourself $500. Or call someone to begin the bail process. The arresting officer will decided those things based on how you react.
It really is that simple. If you are arrested you have the right to speak with an attorney after you have finished the booking process-and not before- and you have the right to know why you are being arrested.
Every single thing is based on how you react.
reply to post by spooky24
Excellent points. If someone thinks they've been wronged they have a right to a lawyer and their day in court. It's always been that way. When you start talking to officers about your rights all you're really saying is that you think you are the court.
reply to post by Daedalus
I never said that courts grant rights. Courts resolve conflicts. If it were as simple as saying "I'm sorry officer but I know my rights so we can stop this nonsense now" there would be no need for courts. You think you know your rights, the officer thinks you don't, the proper place to resolve that conflict is in court. Respecting that process does not mean that someone is buckling under to fascists or any of the other incendiary garbage that has been spewed in this thread.
the only reason this thread even exists, is because so many police officers are ignorant of a citizen's rights, and believe that the badge grants them extra rights and authority, outside of the stated, reasonable limits.
originally posted by: intrptr
reply to post by RocksFromSpace
I'll say this and rile the "die for your rights" crowd. Today the police are operating on a different set of principles. These videos (and DupeTube is full of them) are nice in principal, but leave little to reflect upon in actual practice.
I know, I lived outdoors and can attest the best thing to do with them is let them have their menial way with you. They'll have it anyway. If they find nothing they got nothing. Let them grab at you, cuff you, rifle your belongings, whatever. Try resisting them and the majority will make your life far more miserable than if you just let them do their job as they see it.
The few that mean harm and will actually plant evidence aren't the rule. The rule is they are going to see your ID, they are going to ask questions, they are going to look through your stuff. Say yes sir, and thank you. Then go on your way.
Or go to "detention" or the hospital, your choice. Then you can argue your case in court after you get the stitches removed. I'm not advocating living like sheep, I'm advocating making a direct encounter with them as painless as possible for you.
US citizens forget that there's is NDAA and the Patriot Act .. both of which Negate all form of privacy and freedom...if you argue, and push back.. they can pull these 2 out and you're done...all they have to say is ..
we have 'probable cause'