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Encouraging, very informative Video here from Oathkeepers.
Oath Keeper Founder Stewart Rhodes, On Bunkerville: “We Know It’s Not Over”
This video was produced by Northwest Liberty News
This interview was recorded from the Bundy Ranch
www.youtube.com...edit on 15-4-2014 by burntheships because: (no reason given)
reply to post by nighthawk1954
Local news station reports BLM gave the cattle back and that video was from yesterday? So hard to find information on this - MSM ignores.
reply to post by jaffo
bundy was a clever man...he didn't pay his taxes for 20 years, lost 2 court cases over it....ran his cattle over government land, and when the government stepped in and took his cattle off that land, he started crying about freedom, patriotism, big government, etc.... all the correct buzz words that armed right-wingers love to hear, he got them to come out, ready to shoot LEO's....
OK fellow ATS'ers I am Off for tonight/// i'am beat waiting to hear for info from my buds... If it is real we we will go out there ..I can't afford it ///they will pay as my home in foreclosure.... But this about the American people and the rest of the free world!
reply to post by seaez
are you kidding me?! WHY DOES HE OWE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MONEY? CUZ THEY SAY SO?
YOU SIR, ARE RIDICULOUS.
lets see, because he has had his 900 cows grazing our 600,000 sqr acres of federally owned land for 20 years, and that my dear is his bill?
How much is he making from us, the tax payer? Lets find out. He now has 900 cows (all above numbers are fact easily found in the numerous articles) how much is each cow worth?
i nfo on the economics of a cow
From the link above:
4.7 calf crops @ $948/ year = $4455.60
Cull cow sale = $910.00
Total income with 3 percent death loss adjustment = $5204.63
Pasture for 4.7 years @ $216/year = $1015.20
Winter feed for 4.7 years @ $252/year = $1184.40
Yardage for 4.7 years @ $90/year = $423.00
Total expenses = $2622.60
Net income over life of cow = $2582.03
900 cows * Net Income over life of cow = $2,323,827
That is over 2 million dollars in cows he has on OUR federal land, meaning his costs are far less because we the tax payer are subsidizing his costs for feeding the cow over it's lifetime. You do realize this is Federal land don't you? As in, not his, ours? His family has rented it for generations, legally, but 20 years ago he got greedy and stopped paying. He owes a bill that now totals over $1,000,000 while he has been making a lot of money. The numbers above are for lifetimes of cows, average lifetime of a cow fro3m link above is 5.7 years, generously that's 3 cow lifetimes.
$2,323,827 per cow lifetime (generous profit not taking into account FREE LAND, our land) * 3 cow lifetimes = $6,971,481
Even with that low number, subtract the $1,000,000 he should OWE as part of his opperating expense, and he's still up almost $6 million dollars.
Yeah, great little person millionaire you got there... not counting the actual land and property he owns that these cows are not grazing on.
But you go on defending this greedy a-hole who doesn't want to pay up the money he owes the government, corporate welfare fraud at it's finest. I just laugh that he has people, who I'd imagine are genuinely great people, defending his greedy nature and actions.
reply to post by Volund
You know it's funny though. everything the elite do is so predictable. i mean they have so much disdain towards the american people that it's kinda laughable. Not at you guys though. but towards the elite. I mean they're cowards once they poke us too many times they're gonna be running towards their bunkers crying like a bunch of babies. THEY'RE SCARED OF US. and they should be. We outnumber them 10 million to one. They have the money and influence but we have the power.
reply to post by Logarock
I'd guess the government collects their fair share in taxes when he takes his cattle to market. Isn't that enough? If his cattle aren't grazing on that grass, it's just gonna die after awhile.
reply to post by Logarock
From what is said.. I say this very loosely... Is that he supposedly was trying to pay them these fees but they wouldn't take it...
^ Stated above because there isn't any exact proof on this as of yet.