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Jesus replied, "Truly I tell YOU, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this
mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done.
ete etc....and many more....
I don't see where his statement was solely to the apostles/disciples and not intended for everyone. But then again, the 'Biblical' Gospels are
It's right there in the scripture you quoted MANY times.He was only talking to the disciples.I've WROTE this many, many, many times here at
ATS.Yahoshua CLEARLY stated when the disciples asked why he spoke in parables that couldn't be understood".
Matt 13:10"And the disciples came, and said to him, Why speak you to them in parables? He answered and said to them, Because it is GIVEN TO YOU to you
to KNOW([not JUST beleive]the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is NOT GIVEN. For whoever HAS, to HIM shall be GIVEN, and he shall
have more abundance: but whoever HAS NOT, from him shall be taken away even that he has.Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing SEE
NOT; and hearing they HEAR NOT, neither do they UNDERSTAND."
If you have detailed sources that refute this information...... Again - I'd appreciate having them posted here for [everyone's] reference.
The source is the scriptures themselves.I'll preface it with this though(and yes it's lengthy but the short version). I will post those scriptures
because I think you are being sincere .I apologize if it seems I'm picking on you because I'm not.However I seriously doubt these scriptures will
satisfy you.I've never seen ANYONE convinced about something against their belief.
The whole point of my post was denying ignorance.That "ignorance"just means you don't know.Not that you are evil or stupid.Most people know very
little about the scriptures.It is an impossible book to comprehend as "teaching" because that is not it's purpose.
Outside of the new testimony there is very little to nothing credible written about Yahoshua attributed to those that had direct interaction with him.
The gospels are eye witness accounts especially Johns(he was Yahoshua's right hand man not Peter) .That being said I've said it over and over the
scriptures have one purpose an one purpose only.To testify of the Truth of Yahoshua...which means Yahweh (the creator God) IS salvation the
deliverance from the realm of death...the very GOOD news...and that is ALL it is about and its sole purpose as a testimony.
It is a TESTIMONY of the most significant truth ever and it doesn't matter ONE bit if anyone believes it or not it still is in effect because It
means ALL of mankind WILL be delivered from the realm of death (despite the many that are consternation against it because they believe in the eternal
punishment of hell and others that are just disillusioned).
My suggestions is to "not" read it or study it believing it will reveal anything enlightening .That is NOT it's purpose and the evidence of using
that method has had dire consequences through the many centuries since it was written and those that practice it's content as religion.
If you notice Yahoshua NEVER said he believed in the creator God the Father..he only KNEW the Father.Yahoshua did not not lack perception at all.He
ALWAYS heard what the Father said because he was in the physical realm living a physical life AND in the Kingdom of God realm.That is what is meant
that he descended from "above" and then ascended after the resurrection.He only left "above" in the sense to descend INTO the physical realm as the
Son of Man(a son of the 1st Adam).
John 3:13And no man has ascended up to the heavens, but he that came down from the heavens, which is the Son of man which IS IN the heavens.
By being in both realms is the ONLY way he could "hear" the creator God the Father and then DO what he did.They are axiomatic.Those in the physical
realm perceived what he did as miracles because the things he did were "from above" the laws of the physics of the physical realm.Yet in one sense
they weren't New laws they were the same.
For example.Yahoshua turned a few gallons of water into wine.The same process happens all the time it just doesn't happen in an instant.He multiplied
bread and fish..the same thing happens all the time when wheat is grown harvested and made into bread or fish spawn just not instantaneously. He
raised people from the dead because the Kingdom of the creator God realm IS LIFE (the core meaning of spirit). The miracles were perceptions of things
of the Kingdom of the creator God realm perceived in the physical realm..it was not "magic"..magic is something completely different and is mostly
Yahoshua was saying the same thing I did.I am not saying anything new.He was not playing a game of mysticism.The things he said could not even be
understood by the disciples until later.They just got a taste of it.If Yahoshua performed miracles because of what he learned from the Essenes or
Gnostics other "ascended masters" then he was a complete fraud and not to be believed as credible person at all.He was a "putz" for not giving credit
where credit was due however he wasn't an Essene or Gnostic or even an ascended master or even a Jewish Rabbi!!.He NEVER said anything like that..here
are just a few of the scriptures:
John 7:15And the Jews marveled, saying, How knows this man letters, having NEVER learned? Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is NOT MINE, but
his that sent me[the creator God the Father]. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of
myself. He that speaks of himself seeks his own glory: but he that seeks his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in
Jon 17:16They [the disciples]are not of the world, even as I AM NOT OF THIS WORLD .
John 8:23And he said to them, You are from beneath; I am from above: you are of this world; I AM NOT OF THIS WORLD
John18:16Jesus answered, My kingdom is NOT of THIS WORLD:
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, BEFORE Abraham was, I AM.
Luke 22:29And I appoint unto you[the disciples] a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
Matt 17:1And after six days Jesus takes Peter, James, and John his brother, and brings them up into an high mountain apart, And he was TRANSFIGURED
before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
John5:19Then answered Jesus and said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, The Son can do NOTHING of himself, but what he sees the Father do: for
WHATEVER things soever he does, these also does the Son likewise.
John 5:30 By myself I can do NOTHING;
John 8:28 So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do NOTHING on my own but speak just what
the Father has shown me.
John 14:10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I DO NOT speak on my own authority. Rather,
it is the Father, LIVING in me, who is doing HIS work.
Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God comes not
with observation: Neither shall they say, See here! or, see there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst
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