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intrptrSometimes they were right. Many "civilized" nations have become empires and destroyed themselves in the process. So no matter how good things start out they tend to end up burned to the ground. Anyone that pointed out the folly they were heading into was spurned as overdramatic and discredited, just like you just did.
intrptrThats about as ignorant a statement as one can make. This modern world is first of its kind on earth. And we are choking on the runoff from our technical "civilized" infrastructure. The sheer number of people, the destruction of environment, the rape of resources, pollution and the wars perpetrated the last 100 years or so, have no parallel in history.
Today? We do our work, think about getting drunk on our off time, and we have sex.
Thank you very much. I have seen a few of those, but there are plenty that I haven't.