Ok this is going to be a long one, grab your cup of coffee and try to keep up.
First things first let me address some of the misrepresentation of the facts first and foremost.
quote: Posted by ItWasntMe
There are many genocides going on in the world today, fortunately none are being committed by the United States.
Well it's interesting you should point that out. Google defines genocide as "the systematic and planned killing of an entire national, racial,
political, or ethnic group." Isn't that what the U.S is doing to the "insurgents" who are not an army, but are in fact Iraqi citizens fighting
against an occupational force whose invasion of Iraq is classed as "an illegal invasion" by the United Nations? (Psychoses)
Ok Psychoses, This is not meant to pick on you but your statements show emotion and not logic. Logically with the weapons we have if we to commit
genocide I can think of far better ways then searching the cities with soldiers, we could and would just use daisy cutters across the whole city
accomplishing the goal of genocide in mere hours. Second Insurgents are only fired on when they are a threat to American soldiers, if they did not
have guns and were walking down the street they would not be harmed by the American army. I challenge you to provide a credible source for your last
remark, “invasion of Iraq is classed as "an illegal invasion" by the United Nations?” The fact is Iraq was in direct violation of many UN
resolutions and showed no evidence of ever complying.
You guys. The crimes that are being committed in our name are atrocious. (Emily_Cragg)
Name one. Here is a list of torture under saddam, this is published by amnesty international.
web.amnesty.org...
Read this before any more talk of our crimes is mentioned please.
Well let me tell you that the Bush administration not only has committed a genocide in Iraq (and other palces), it behaved like Hitler in
Guantanamo (and other palces), but it is also after building the new Roman empire. Also the bad thing is that most of the Americans think just like
Mr. Bush! (WisdomMaster)
This is a blanket statement which I tried to just ignored but got to me. This does not provide any prove or any argueable points, just a shotgun
blast of an attack. I ask you to go into more detail so we might understand your point of view.
However... the U.S. is indeed going about the occupation of Iraq in a clumsy and heavy-handed way. The mission to topple Saddam has turned into a
mission to "build" Iraq - and the U.S. is ignoring the fact that some Iraqis may genuinely be pissed off at being occupied by a foreign force. But
the Bush administration has a "shoot first and discuss later" and "diplomacy is for wimps" attitude. And let's not forget the "We don't have to
understand terrorists - we just have to kill them." And as long as that doesn't change - as long as the U.S. administration doesn't realize that
not all terrorists become terrorists for the same reasons - it's condemned to kill more and more Muslims. (Otts)
Terrorist-adj : characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a political weapon); "terrorist activity"; "terrorist state" n : a
radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist
activities. The statement is flawed, terrorists would love nothing more for us to try to understand them. Do you think they sit around trying to
understand our culture. As a general statement most terrorists spawn for religious radicalism, not all but a good number. In this situation we are
dealing with radical Islamic, They are not mad because of our politics as many would love to believe but angry due to our religious faiths.
www.policyreview.org... . Terrorism will always be around due to the radical Islamic belief that all who do not believe in allah
are infidels and deserve to die, couple that with our sexually open, civil rights striving western culture and we become everything the Islamic faith
condemns, more or less. As for diplomacy, how can you be diplomatic with a army of crusaders who attack from the shadows and use women and children
as weapons? I do not doubt that some Iraqis are angry at the United States, but that is not a majority of the country, The fact is we do not really
know how they feel do to the fact there country has been repressed in its freedom of speech and it will be some while until they feel free to express
there views. The more we bend and try to level with the terrorist the easier they will find it to attack and they will not think twice to do it.
Mokuhadzushi-No, poor idiot. The figure 100.000 is not a 'lie', but scientific truth, published by a world's leading medical journal.
-No my friend you are stretching the tuth and insulting this fellow poster. The iraqi resistance is not made up of foreigners. Stop believing Bush
lies.
-Mokuhadzushi- Where do I start with your post… “100.000 is not a 'lie', but scientific truth, published by a world's leading medical journal.”
Please name this leading medical journal so I can read this confirmed number that is apparently being posted.
There are many members of the resistance that are Iraqi without a doubt. But when the call for the jihad went out, Islamic radicals from many nations
entered the fight against the United States.
www.newsmax.com...
Instead of just attacking another poster, why don’t you argue him with facts and comments to make him see your point instead of just believing you are
right.
Now onto the body of my post…
The United States is not perfect, but it is no Germany from the 30’s. First of all in a direct comparison did the Jews in Europe kill there own
people in hope of getting maybe one German? The answer is no, the jews in Europe looked after there own creating escape routes and organized forces to
protect its people. Now onto present day, terrorists in Iraq are randomly placing bombs on the side of the road in hope of getting an American Convoy,
but often instead kill members of its own faith/countrymen.
www.chinadaily.com.cn...
www.inq7.net...
I can post more examples but it would be redundant. If anyone is going to be compared to the terror Hitler inflicted in the world it should be the
terrorist currently operating around the world. They do not care about any people besides themselves, Well let me rephrase that, they care a lot but
only about converting or destroying all the infidels. The Iraqis have lived in a land operated by a human rights violator and a man who built an
empire of wealth on stealing food from its citizens. Name one other country in the world that has helped rebuild a country after it removed a leader.
As a matter of fact, the united states has helped rebuild ever country that we have fought against no matter whether we were right in fighting them
or not. We are still paying France, Germany, Japan etc etc for WW2 bombings. So to compare Bush to a dictator like Hitler who systematically went
across Europe killing all who stood in his way, torturing and designing an efficient machine for destroying human life through furnaces, gas, and
torture is nothing more than to draw an emotional reaction. If you read through information for yourself instead of watching a biased media you will
notice the United States Army has followed international rules of fighting based on the geneva convention and punished the soldiers that have
disobeyed these rules. They continue to follow these rules though its enemy clearly does not pay attention to these rules and does not care to even
attempt to follow them. They have decapitated many soldiers and civilians alike. Uses women and children to sneak attack our soldiers, yet I only
hear disgust for our soldiers doing there job and making the country save for its Iraqis. I know this post is long, but I appreciate you sticking
with it.
[edit on 27-11-2004 by ItWasntMe]
that i think this. 
