So We the People Won Against the Government/BLM--Now What?

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posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:04 PM
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Many of you are undoubtedly celebrating the recent victory of armed militias against the land-grabbing BLM/Government.

And you should. This is a proud day for the American (not Amerikan, not today!) people, the day we remembered we have a spine, can stand up for a cause we believe in, and are willing to make the real purpose of the 2nd Amendment come alive. This is the first day in a long time I've been proud to be an American, because it seems at long last that many people are willing to stand up for the freedom/liberty this country should be about.

But later tonight or early tomorrow, when the celebration stops, we need to sober up and realize we've a serious problem on our hands.

What's that, you ask?

Well, recently at the latest nuclear summit, Obama made an offhand remark that he's more worried about Manhattan getting nuked than any threat Russia poses. Add that to the crazy number of nuclear commanders purged, and we should all be willing to admit the threat of a nuclear false-flag attack is definitely on the table.

Now that threat is more likely than ever before. Look at some facts:

(1) The much-feared (by the government) politicial awakening of the masses is only accelerating.

(2) The government knows that it's losing the information (read: propaganda) war against we the people.

(3) Faith in the government is at all-time lows

(4) The government knows that even if it manages to pass draconian laws, it's not getting our guns.

(5) And now, after the situation at Nevada, the government knows we the people are finally willing to USE those guns to stand up against the tyranny.

On all fronts the people are showing themselves willing to push back against this madness. That's an exciting thing, but it's also terrifying. Because an animal is never more dangerous than when it's backed into a corner. And this government is slowly finding itself forced into a very serious corner.

Slowly but surely we're pushing them back. And with step backwards I fear we're also moving their hands closer to that big red button. Seriously, how many different options does this corrupt government have left? The walls are coming down around it, the ceiling is caving in, and we the people are about ready to take to the streets with tar and feathers in hand.

I hope I'm wrong, and I hope someone posts something to convince me otherwise, but it sure looks like a massive false flag is the only ace the government has left up its sleeve.

The question then becomes: What can we do? Obviously we can't disarm the government, just like the government can't disarm us. Then what?

The answer is spread awareness. The only way we can keep these psychopaths in power from taking us all down with them is to make sure if something DOES happen, as many people as possible will immediately look to the government as the FIRST SUSPECT. To make this happen won't take much on your part. All it requires is a little spreading of information from the alternative media, a little creativity in your approach.

Even offhand comments made at strategic times can help open people's eyes and make them start questioning the morality of TPTB.

Something like: "Gee, this government is so corrupt I wouldn't be shocked if they launched a false flag against us to steal back our loyalty." That'd be a perfect time to start talking about Operation Gladio, Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods, or any of the major false flags governments have launched against their own people to keep themselves in power.

Seriously, it's great that we the people are taking steps to reclaim our liberties. But we need to all start watching out and planning for the next countermove of TPTB. Because their next move is coming. These people are literally insane, and they're not planning on going gently into that good night.

Unless we start playing some airtight defense, when they go down, they're going to do their very best to take us with them.
edit on 12-4-2014 by JonButtonIII because: I'm fat and I make stupid embarassing typos




posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:15 PM
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If it were up to me, We The People should give them no chance to retaliate against us. I say more protests tomorrow in cities everywhere. Over the general abuse of the law by the Feds among many others...of course this will not happen, your question is certainly a good and valid one that I am not sure I have the answer to unfortunately.


At this point however, i also do not think the government feels not quite yet threatened enough to try anything crazy like say another false flag. We need to keep up the pressure



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:16 PM
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Bundy and BML may be over for now. Le's hope, but not let the guard down. Stay alert, not divide on issues. Indeed as mention in the OP, spread awareness,etc. However, there's still action being taken against ranches, Feds seize a family's ranch in NM-

As shared here- www.abovetopsecret.com...


When Kit Laney answered a knock on his door Saturday, law enforcement officers from the U.S. Forest Service handed him a piece of paper announcing his Diamond Bar Ranch in southwest New Mexico would be shut down Wednesday and his 300 head of cattle grazing there would be removed – one way or the other.
Source


Far from over. Get this out there.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:21 PM
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jon,

sheesh....well said and thought out my friend.....

you are what is going to keep this country afloat. You and the tens of millions like you. (and me)

this is the major victory we have been waiting for.....the proof that others like us will take up arms and run to the rescue of fellow Americans when they need it.

I wish that this would have happened at Ruby Ridge and Waco....then we would be much further down the road than we are.....but further down the road we are just the same.

I know that.....for me....I am revitalized to see the militia and neighbors getting together to hold back the massive federal government....there was no hesitating .... there was no flinching.....people literally rushed to lend a hand.....and an armed one at that.

but you are right.....this is a major problem for TPTB......this showed our resolve.....this was a test for them.....just like Ruby Ridge and Waco.....we failed those tests but passed this one....

now they have to fold.....or up their game.

we have to attack......they flinched.....we must push forward harder than ever.

we have to elect people in this next cycle who mirror our beliefs.....who love America.....who will fight like we will



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:21 PM
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We need to put Obamacare in the sights next.

Where the hell would you have the showdown for that one?



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:23 PM
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I'd liked to see this carry over to the actual Police killing of so many unarmed people that is being heard of on here way to often.
And I'm also thinking the Feds don't just give up. Would not surprise me to see all these cows come up sick and need put down.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:29 PM
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butcherguy
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We need to put Obamacare in the sights next.

Where the hell would you have the showdown for that one?


No where.

They say sign up. We all say hell no.

Penalize us. We don't pay.

The middle finger should be the appropriate response when we've had enough. And....The index finger for when that doesn't work.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:33 PM
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TiedDestructor

butcherguy
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We need to put Obamacare in the sights next.

Where the hell would you have the showdown for that one?


No where.

They say sign up. We all say hell no.

Penalize us. We don't pay.

The middle finger should be the appropriate response when we've had enough. And....The index finger for when that doesn't work.



That is how it worked in PA years ago. The state decided to start their own insurance 'fund' for catastrophic car accidents. In the end, the premiums multiplied tenfold and the people quit paying it.... the state legislators figured it out and quietly folded it up.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:40 PM
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Not over far from it, can you imagine how far some politicians are willing to go to save face? No this is just the beginning and not a victory by any means.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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On to the next one?

Fed's must have something against Hamburgers?



When Kit Laney answered a knock on his door Saturday, law enforcement officers from the U.S. Forest Service handed him a piece of paper announcing his Diamond Bar Ranch in southwest New Mexico would be shut down Wednesday and his 300 head of cattle grazing there would be removed – one way or the other.


FEDS SEIZE FAMILY’S RANCH-Property owners fight government ‘land grab’!



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:50 PM
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I'm glad to see that they thought intelligently about this situation rather than a preparing for another Ruby Ridge or Waco.
Now they will be more careful about how they do things.

Frankly, I've not followed this matter to closely, but I'm willing to bet that there is Agenda 21 lurking in the background of the fed's plans.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 09:55 PM
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now you go home...happy that you helped some mega-ranch skip out on paying grazing cost like a smaller farmer has to do.

Well done.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:00 PM
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SaturnFX
now you go home...happy that you helped some mega-ranch skip out on paying grazing cost like a smaller farmer has to do.

Well done.


I read the family had given the land to NV for the water rights & in turn they could graze the land forever...until the Fed's stepped in.

See American Indians & US Federal Deals.

Peace



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:16 PM
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SaturnFX
now you go home...happy that you helped some mega-ranch skip out on paying grazing cost like a smaller farmer has to do.

Well done.


So instead of a debtors court for not paying grazing costs (which is not constitutional anyways, the debtors court) The BLM brings in snipers and other weapon clad enforcers. The whole thing reeks of some ordered hit on this guy. (Kind of like tying up all the loose ends where someone is actually benefitting from the taxes they pay).
Imagine that, but the BLM says not going to happen. No one should ever get anything close to value for taxes paid. (sheeesh)

The BLM has a long and well known history of being politically driven to do things, even if they didn't actually care before.
This is probably the same deal, like the IRS, someone is just playing army men with government assets. Because the country certainly is not going to miss that land, and they usually just let land that they "grab" go to seed anyways..



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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This fight has been going on between that ranch for over 20 years. the blm has simply stepped back for a bit while the alex jones fetishists gets bored and moves on, then it will be back to the beginning.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:29 PM
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Celebration of any kind, right now, is premature. This is not over by a long shot.
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posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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SaturnFX
now you go home...happy that you helped some mega-ranch skip out on paying grazing cost like a smaller farmer has to do.

Well done.


What a ignorant comment! Don't mind the free speech zones, the militarized BLM agents, no fly zone etc etc. Nope, it's the fault of the guy who's family has been on the land for 140 years. All the mafia supporters on ats concerning this issue has made me sick to my stomach! By all means though, let the redcoats continue to show their true colors!



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:38 PM
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Traditionally, rebellions move on the capital city of the nation they intend to conquer.

Rather than some obscure ranch in the desert, if the Militias have the strength of their conventions, Washington DC is on every map.

Converge. Let's have done I say.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:41 PM
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jaws1975

SaturnFX
now you go home...happy that you helped some mega-ranch skip out on paying grazing cost like a smaller farmer has to do.

Well done.


What a ignorant comment! Don't mind the free speech zones, the militarized BLM agents, no fly zone etc etc. Nope, it's the fault of the guy who's family has been on the land for 140 years. All the mafia supporters on ats concerning this issue has made me sick to my stomach! By all means though, let the redcoats continue to show their true colors!


Not to mention all of those smaller farmers that were/are supporting him in this... smh.



posted on Apr, 12 2014 @ 10:45 PM
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jaws1975

SaturnFX
now you go home...happy that you helped some mega-ranch skip out on paying grazing cost like a smaller farmer has to do.

Well done.


What a ignorant comment! Don't mind the free speech zones, the militarized BLM agents, no fly zone etc etc. Nope, it's the fault of the guy who's family has been on the land for 140 years. All the mafia supporters on ats concerning this issue has made me sick to my stomach! By all means though, let the redcoats continue to show their true colors!

Cool story.
Poor rich company almost had to pay to feed their cows like pretty much every other rancher.

Luckily a swarm of socialists demanded the state supply rich companies with feeding ground for free.

Anyhow, throw up a memorial for all the heroes that died there and move on.
(hint, it was just some people blocking traffic until the ranchers got a free pass..nobody died, etc)

Now, lets see the same passion for some homeless guy wanting to get a free meal.
(next hint: the opposite will happen from the same group)

Priorities





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