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If there is a Creative Mind behind the Universe, then miracles are possible as long as the Creator outside the system intervenes.
Can you explain to me why matter with no mind reacts to being observed?
I am not asking for proof, but rather just something we see in the natural world that implies there is no design, and that it is improbable that a God exist.
Chamberf=6
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
As in other topics, how would one go about proving an absence of something?
In terms of god/gods (pick one) doesn't it come down more to belief and not proof?
edit on 4/12/2014 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)
Sremmos80
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
Why would an agnostic want to play the "prove there is no god" game...?
Why would any one want to play that game? No one ever wins
Grimpachi
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
Atheism is the lack of belief in deities.
Faith is belief in something without evidence.
Atheism and faith do not mix for those reasons they are like oil and water they don't mix.
Asking an atheist to prove your god doesn't exist or saying atheism requires faith has been pointed out to be illogical time and time again.
I don't even think the word atheist should be needed we don't need such titles to describe those who do not believe in fairies, leprechauns, or unicorns. A-fairiest, a- leprechaunist, or a-unicornist it is only because there are so many people that believe in some fanciful universe creating deity for which there is no evidence for that we needed a title which explained that we aren't so gullible.
Now you should be able to give a similar deduction as to why God is not probable.
Grimpachi
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
Atheism is the lack of belief in deities.
Faith is belief in something without evidence.
Atheism and faith do not mix for those reasons they are like oil and water they don't mix.
Asking an atheist to prove your god doesn't exist or saying atheism requires faith has been pointed out to be illogical time and time again.
I don't even think the word atheist should be needed we don't need such titles to describe those who do not believe in fairies, leprechauns, or unicorns. A-fairiest, a- leprechaunist, or a-unicornist it is only because there are so many people that believe in some fanciful universe creating deity for which there is no evidence for that we needed a title which explained that we aren't so gullible.
AfterInfinity
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
I am not asking for proof, but rather just something we see in the natural world that implies there is no design, and that it is improbable that a God exist.
Cancer. Please show me where God is in that. Or child molestation. Or a shootout at the local school. Or a shootout at the movie theater. Or a bombing at a marathon. Or planes crashing into towers full of innocent people. Or an aerial strike slaughtering thousands of men and women at harbor. Rape. Murder. Disease. Abuse. Starvation. Negligence. Should I go on? There's about 500,000 years worth of stupid, violent, unnecessary and very damaging stuff that's happened without any discernible cause or justification. Stuff that, should a god exist, would force any reasonable thinking individual to call into question that entity's regard for our well-being.edit on 12-4-2014 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
ServantOfTheLamb
Sremmos80
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
Why would an agnostic want to play the "prove there is no god" game...?
Why would any one want to play that game? No one ever wins
Why didn't anyone pay attention to me when I stated in the OP that I am not asking for proof. Just evidence. For example, If Santa Clause was real we would see Him at the North Pole. Santa is not there. Nothing at the North Pole implies Santa is there. Therefore it is not probable(not impossible) that a Fat Man in a Red Suit with magical elves and reindeer doesn't live at the north pole. Also since I moved out of my parents house he quit visiting.
Now you should be able to give a similar deduction as to why God is not probable.edit on 12-4-2014 by ServantOfTheLamb because: (no reason given)