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matafuchs
Not sure what video some of you saw but he was getting the # kicked out of him. He also says I am a US citizen twice. For some servicemen who come home to no job this is all they have. To privatize. There is a lot going on over there the public does not know about. A lot.
They have been reporting in overseas papers for over a week that they are there. Private Security forces.
There were videos a few weeks back showing them in the streets.
What sucks is that this guy is captured. How do we get him back?
Ranong
reply to post by pookle
What sucks is that this guy is captured. How do we get him back?
Why would you want him back, he's a merc, excuse me for being blunt, but this guy would violate your siblings if the price was right. Again, he is not a soldier(whatever that means anymore) he's a merc.
Ranong
reply to post by pookle
What sucks is that this guy is captured. How do we get him back?
Why would you want him back, he's a merc, excuse me for being blunt, but this guy would violate your siblings if the price was right. Again, he is not a soldier(whatever that means anymore) he's a merc.
Ranong
reply to post by pookle
What sucks is that this guy is captured. How do we get him back?
Why would you want him back, he's a merc, excuse me for being blunt, but this guy would violate your siblings if the price was right. Again, he is not a soldier(whatever that means anymore) he's a merc.
I agree, he is scum.
OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by pookle
I agree, he is scum.
Really,
scum?
again as i have said above how can you judge a man like this?
I understand that you might disagree with his career choices and that is fine
but to show such hate towards a person you do not know when he is being tortured (lets call it what it was) is just astounding.
OtherSideOfTheCoin
Ranong
reply to post by pookle
What sucks is that this guy is captured. How do we get him back?
Why would you want him back, he's a merc, excuse me for being blunt, but this guy would violate your siblings if the price was right. Again, he is not a soldier(whatever that means anymore) he's a merc.
So lets assume this video is legitimate....
Firstly he is a American Citizen, if he were a Brit i would be wanting him back, if he has committed any crimes he can be tried for them in his home state. At the very least (Merc or not) he should have diplomatic representation and I believe he should be treated as a ordinary solider would be under the provisions of Article 3 of the Geneva convention, I would also argue that Article four should apply to Mercs if they are not going to be covered by Article 3.
I cannot believe though you would talk about the man like this, when he is being violently attacked by a group of guys, you dont even know this man. He could be a merc that is out there protecting a medical center for all we know.
He might be a "merc" but he probably at one time was a solider who served his country and defended your freedoms, yet now you are saying he does not deserve any protection form the state he once served, let alone your respect, because you dont agree with his career choices.
I find your post to be in very pour taste.edit on 11-4-2014 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)
Sorry I missed the part where he was handing out sweeties to children.
Can you highlight to where I can find his infinite kindness in the video?
He gets to be tried in Ukraine. That is where he is commiting the offence. None of this tried in his home country bs.
OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by pookle
Sorry I missed the part where he was handing out sweeties to children.
can you show me the part where he "violets your siblings" as the member i was responding to (not you) stated in the post.
Can you highlight to where I can find his infinite kindness in the video?
Are you for real?
We have a video of a man being beaten by a group of Russian combatants and before you will show any sympathy for the man seem to think we need to provide you with proof of his "infinite kindness".
I just don't quite get this absurd attitude in this thread that basically sounds like a bunch of arm-chair generals saying he deserved what he got.
He gets to be tried in Ukraine. That is where he is commiting the offence. None of this tried in his home country bs.
As i said, if he were a Brit, I would be wanting him returned home and to face any crimes he may have committed (we dont actually know he done anything wrong) in his home State if not then at the very least be provided with diplomatic representation and be treated under article 4 (or 3) of the Geneva convention.
Really I am saying is that the abuse of detainees be it in Abu Ghraib or in a dark room in the Ukraine, is wrong.
"What is your legitimate purpose of being here as a foreign national dressed in military fatigues which are not of you own country when you country is not actively engaged in war in this country and brandishing weapons which are not legally registered to you?"
OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by Ranong
"What is your legitimate purpose of being here as a foreign national dressed in military fatigues which are not of you own country when you country is not actively engaged in war in this country and brandishing weapons which are not legally registered to you?"
As far as i am Aware the fatigues have yet to be positively identified, also PMC personnel often where military style fatigues, and lastly even if he were in the wrong by wearing those cloths he still does not deserve to be tortured and have his fellow countrymen cast him aside because you do not agree with is career choices.
PsychoEmperor
pookle
PsychoEmperor
reply to post by matafuchs
If this video is real and if that is an American Citizen, than I officially support my country doing whatever is necessary to protect our own.
To state my position prior to this video: I didn't believe we should be there, and I thought the Crimea issue should have been left alone and the voting respected.
However after seeing this video, and again IF this is real and it's an American, than I say Forget Russia, do whatever it takes America, you have my support.
P.S
I know this is an emotional response, but it's my response and it's the response you're going to get from a lot of Americans, Be careful what you wish for. We(Americans) aren't going to care that we were there spying or doing whatever we were doing there, We protect our own.
As long as it's not you or somebody you know in the video, thats fine, right?
Maybe you didn't read my response, IF THE VIDEO IS REAL, we should do whatever it takes to stop it from happening again.