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Akragon
reply to post by WarminIndy
The sin of Sodom wasn't homosexuality it was rape...
It wasn't a city of gay people despite what Christianity teaches... read about it for yourself... Homosexuality is not mentioned at all
The whole sodomy thing was fabricated by the church hundreds of years later because of their hatred of gay people
Genesis 13:13
But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly.
Deuteronomy 23:17
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Yes. Which is why God had another religion appear to correct all the things that Christians got wrong. As the bible says, Jesus was a man. Not God. Eventually, the descendants of Jesus' disciples in the middle east converted to a monotheistic religion that spoke the truth about Jesus' nature as a HUMAN.
@ FlyersFan
Obviously if there was more truth to teach, then it was OUTSIDE of the Israelite religion.
Otherwise, the Jews would have already known it and Jesus wouldn't have to be teaching it.
sk0rpi0n
Yes. Which is why God had another religion appear to correct all the things that Christians got wrong. As the bible says, Jesus was a man. Not God. Eventually, the descendants of Jesus' disciples in the middle east converted to a monotheistic religion that spoke the truth about Jesus' nature as a HUMAN.
@ FlyersFan
Obviously if there was more truth to teach, then it was OUTSIDE of the Israelite religion.
Otherwise, the Jews would have already known it and Jesus wouldn't have to be teaching it.
A bunch of empty words. In reality, God allowed Islam to dominate the middle east...after uprooting the paganized religion called christianity. Christianity was booted out of the middle east for its sins of polytheism, blaspgemy and idolatry. Clearly God wants monotheism as practiced by Islam...not the polytheistic man-god worship being peddled by your religion.
@WarminIndy... Either it was the devil or it was Mohammed making up something,
sk0rpi0n
A bunch of empty words. In reality, God allowed Islam to dominate the middle east...after uprooting the paganized religion called christianity. Christianity was booted out of the middle east for its sins of polytheism, blaspgemy and idolatry. Clearly God wants monotheism as practiced by Islam...not the polytheistic man-god worship being peddled by your religion.
@WarminIndy... Either it was the devil or it was Mohammed making up something,edit on 13-4-2014 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
WarminIndy
Akragon
reply to post by WarminIndy
The sin of Sodom wasn't homosexuality it was rape...
It wasn't a city of gay people despite what Christianity teaches... read about it for yourself... Homosexuality is not mentioned at all
The whole sodomy thing was fabricated by the church hundreds of years later because of their hatred of gay people
ROFL, do you think the early church didn't address this very issue? You mean Christians fabricated the Torah?
Rape of WHOM? Female strangers?
Rape of men by men is...........homosexual rape.
And then I ask you please, read the rest of the Bible for every instance the word Sodom is mentioned.
Christians didn't fabricate this...and what do you think qualifies as an exceeding sin? Throwing eggs at your neighbor's house?
Genesis 13:13
But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly.
Did the Christians fabricate this one...clearly denoting it is a willing sexual act.
Deuteronomy 23:17
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
While we might say we must still love gay people, do not misrepresent what the Bible does have to say about it. This is Torah, not fabricated by the Christians.
sk0rpi0n
Which is why God had another religion appear to correct all the things that Christians got wrong.
sk0rpi0n
God allowed Islam to dominate the middle east...after uprooting the paganized religion called christianity.
Christianity was booted out of the middle east for its sins of polytheism, blaspgemy and idolatry.
The God of Abraham, who gave the law to Moses.
@ WarminIndy....
Have you questioned which god?
Christians tell themselves they believe in One God. However, Father+son+holy spirit = THREE... therefore, Christianity is polytheism.
@FlyersFan....
Christians believe in ONE GOD Who manifests Himself in three ways - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One God.
sk0rpi0n
The God of Abraham, who gave the law to Moses.
@ WarminIndy....
Have you questioned which god?
sk0rpi0n
Christians tell themselves they believe in One God. However, Father+son+holy spirit = THREE... therefore, Christianity is polytheism.
@FlyersFan....
Christians believe in ONE GOD Who manifests Himself in three ways - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One God.
sk0rpi0n
Father+son+holy spirit = THREE... therefore, Christianity is polytheism.
FlyersFan
sk0rpi0n
Father+son+holy spirit = THREE... therefore, Christianity is polytheism.
ONE GOD ... three manifestations. You've been told that many times, but you refuse to acknowledge that. Perhaps you should refrain from trying to tell Christians what they believe ... you always get it wrong.
The topic ... the historical fiction of Jesus having a wife.
WarminIndy
FlyersFan
sk0rpi0n
Father+son+holy spirit = THREE... therefore, Christianity is polytheism.
ONE GOD ... three manifestations. You've been told that many times, but you refuse to acknowledge that. Perhaps you should refrain from trying to tell Christians what they believe ... you always get it wrong.
The topic ... the historical fiction of Jesus having a wife.
Yes, fiction.
And not even very good fiction at that, because they can't even agree on who she was. You would think that if He really were married, they would have known her name at least.
JudgeEden
reply to post by WarminIndy
No one is misrespresenting anything. You are, again, injecting your own ideas into scripture that aren't there.
Deuteronomy 23:17
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
What does that mean? Well, it isn't speaking about homosexuality. Unless you're willing to concede that 'whore' means lesbian. God is no respecter of persons. So if He will condemn homosexuality between men, He would also condemn it between females. However, that never is the case, is it? Why specifically mention men in regards to sodomites and ignore females?
People must ask themselves questions and critically think about the scriptures they are reading. Not just have a knee jerk reaction to scripture and throw an absent meaning into it.