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the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. (John 2:9-10 KJV)
Blackmarketeer
reply to post by Metallicus
Not just the Council of Nicaea, but with Peter's concepts of a patriarchal religion. From the inception of Jesus' apostles, Peter saw no place for women, as common for Judaic law in that period.
A wide range of scientific testing indicates that a papyrus fragment containing the words, "Jesus said to them, my wife" is an ancient document, dating between the sixth to ninth centuries CE. Its contents may originally have been composed as early as the second to fourth centuries.
Metallicus
reply to post by Sparta
I saw this article earlier and am glad that you posted it here.
This is very interesting. I think many of us already knew that Jesus was married, but it didn't fit with the narrative that was being being told by the Council of Nicaea when modern Christian doctrine, and later the bible, were being put together.
This is a great find. I love it when we can piece together the past with solid evidence.
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Famouszor
reply to post by Sparta
Has this question ever been asked.
Is this referring to the son of God "Jesus" or some guy named Jesus (pronounced "Hey Zeus")?
I'm asking this because every thing I have read about this, nothing has ever said "the son of God".
aLLeKs
Just a simple question, what is more likely in that age.
A 30years old man with no wife OR a 30years old man with a wife?
MerkabaMeditation
reply to post by Sparta
Of course he had a wife. I and many others believe that a Jewish man not having a wife in his thirties back then was unheard of. Boys were maried away at an early age, it was probably very common in the Jewish culture back then.
-MM
edit on 12-4-2014 by MerkabaMeditation because: (no reason given)
FlyersFan
It's authentic to the 7th century Egypt.
It's not a historical document.
It's most likely 'historical fiction'.
Char-Lee
reply to post by maceov
The stipulation made that he had to marry by 30 is not accurate. He was honorarily called Rabbi because of His grasp of the scriptures and His authority and vast knowledge pertaining to the scriptures.
yes you are right the age was younger it seems. Why would people not be mentioning that he was not taking a wife as he should.
i. Among the Jews of that day, marriage was a sacred duty. If a man was unmarried after the age of 20 - except to concentrate on the study of the law - he was guilty of breaking God's command to "be fruitful and multiply." According to Barclay, they said that by not having children he killed his own descendants, and had lessened the glory of God on earth.
Cinrad
aLLeKs
Just a simple question, what is more likely in that age.
A 30years old man with no wife OR a 30years old man with a wife?
Back then, 30 year old men used to marry 15 year old girls. Or so I have been told, never examined the evidence on this one myself.
Back then, 30 year old men used to marry 15 year old girls. Or so I have been told, never examined the evidence on this one myself.
time is running out when u only live to 35.
no one outside His followers believed He was the Son of God