reply to post by smithjustinb
Nothing is false is obviously balderdash. And using mathematics to prove the "relativism" of things is a contradiction in terms. Mathematics is a
strict procedure with strict rules and conclusions. 1 + 1 is incontestably 2.
Similarly, there are things in human social reality which are simply true. Being kind and compassionate, that is, being open and receptive to other
minds, is good. When two minds do it together, an altogether different quality emerges, whether that be called flow, or presence, or harmonizing.
This is a simple fact of human social relations.
Some things are true, other things are false. We discover truth and falsehood through first hand experience, using empirical methods of observation,
and applying concepts like probability.
I can't say for certain that tomorrow the sun will rise, but I am very very sure, based on prior sunrises, that tomorrow the sun will rise. Induction
may not yield certainties the way deductions do, but they yield probabilities that are just as good.
Justinb, don't confuse yourself by trying to find the truth via reason. Some things are just known through intuition. Human beings come to "knowing"
things in this way in just about everything we do. Someone with lesions to their right cingulate cortex is incapable of making decisions. They go
round and round in discursive reasoning, weighing one concept against another, never able to come to a conclusion because ultimately "emotion" is what
decides, and the cortical area which gives "partiality" to cognitive processes isn't working in a brain like this.
This essentially means that at are very heart of hearts, human beings are moral creatures. We rely on value in making our decisions. And since whats
of greatest value - what benefits all equally - is recognized by the majority of minds, a personal subjective experience of value becomes something
with objective force: a recognized system of morals.
This system worldwide is phrased the same way as the golden rule: don't to other people what you wouldn't want done to you.
This is so bloody incontrovertible, so obvious, such a basic factor in peaceful social relations that it's quite unfortunate that so many people can
fail to recognize it's intuitive brilliance. To live a life that does not conform to this truth is to separate yourself from the mass of mankind, to
act as if there isn't another mind affected by your actions; to essentially live "mindlessly", following personal goals, while other selves suffer
from your failure to attend to the reverberatory effects of your behavior.
Can there be a deeper way of being in this world? No. Living in such a way where the other person is embodied in your awareness, is a factor in how
you act, is living at a level above egoistic human relations where the "I" of my rigid, personal opinion fails to take into account the other minds
unique, contextual circumstances, which have led him to a different view. When two minds, or a group of minds, relate with one another at this level,
a "transcendent" perspective emerges, a middle ground where views are acknowledged and harmoniously integrated.
Truth exists in this world. It is just not easy to see when you have a plank in your eye, to quote the gospel.
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