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Armed Fed Agents and Snipers in Nevada Battle with Local Rancher

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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 09:40 AM
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tmeister182
The county sheriff has the Constitutional authority to make the feds leave and thereby defuse this situation.


Doug Gillespie (the county sheriff) will do nothing. The NV governor, Sandoval, says:

Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval weighed in with a statement Tuesday scolding the Bureau of Land Management
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True to form, our county sheriff sits on his thumbs.




posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 12:00 PM
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Just came out.
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Two of Nevada’s top elected leaders are riding to the rescue of a rancher whose decades-long range war with the federal government has reached a boiling point in recent days.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 12:24 PM
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“When threats are made that could jeopardize the safety of the American people, the contractors and our personnel; we have the responsibility to provide law enforcement to account for their safety,” National Park Service spokeswoman Christie Vanover told reporters Sunday.
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As a person that uses public land legally, some whack job that divinely believes he owns some public land is a danger to ME.

I run into these clowns periodically. I make it a point to convince these clowns that this is our land, not his land.

If Fox was an actual news outlet, they would do research and point out that the vast number of ranchers pay the grazing fee because it enables the BLM to enforce that the land in question is for THEIR cattle, not someone else's cattle.

Remember the BLM is very pro-rancher.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 12:49 PM
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This from a thread I posted today - an update:

Things at Nevada Ranch Intensifying!


freakjive
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Now this is what I was hoping to see! Amazing!


VIDEO: Constitutional Sheriff Richard Mack Speaks On Bundy Ranch Standoff as Oathkeepers Puts Out Call For All Able Bodied Oathkeepers To Assist In Maintaining The Peace





posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 01:07 PM
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My money is on whats under that land...its really not about unpaid taxes or turtles


www.naturalnews.com...



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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"Endangered tortoises" is merely the government cover story for confiscating land to turn it over to fracking companies for millions of dollars in energy leases.


The government doesn't have to confiscate the land. Why? Because they already own it.

That was good for a chuckle. A website with writing that stupid should stick to peddling pills.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 02:26 PM
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You are correct. The government does want something. Check out this link. All hail Obama.

www.blm.gov...

Like I said in previous statements, government is corrupt, greedy, and worst of all blood thirsty!!!



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 02:43 PM
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The issue here is not if the man is doing something illegal, its how the government is reacting with a show of force and violence, how they are spending tax payer money to round up the cattle, establishing a "First Amendment Zone",and, lets not forget what they really want the land for. I don't like free range cattle on public land because I hunt in the mountains and they disturb the wild animals as well as hunters, but, that's the way its been with ranchers before these places were even a state so I just deal with it out of for respect for the ranchers and their livelihood. I cant believe how some people think the way the government is handling this is correct??? THE GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF CONTROL....PERIOD!



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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No worries here. Post them all, people need to see the abuse by the government before the MSM and politicians lie about it.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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I have seen some links about the militias also but agree they may not be reliable. I hope the militia does not show up armed, these people protesting have not been armed, bringing guns will only escalate to a massacre of Americans. So far I do not see how this case of government tyranny warrants shooting at each other, tensions are very high and like I said, the government has itchy trigger fingers and are looking for any reason to shoot someone, that's how they power trip. If the protesters do not use violence most Americans will stand behind them if the are shot, then changes can be made legally and civilly. I think the local sheriff is a coward, so are the leading state politicians that are allowing this escalation by the federal government to continue, if they had any balls and respect for the human lives they represent they would be using themselves as a human shield against the Gestapo.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:18 PM
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You may be on the right track with oil in that area. It seems Harry Reid stands to perhaps gain something from his buddy who happens to be the head of the BLM

______beforeitsnews/alternative/2014/04/militarized-siege-of-bundy-ranch-is-all-about-oil-fracking-deals-2935768.html

This is a map of the oil in the area, lower right hand corner.

www.naturalnews.com...

So, I ask again, excessive force against a man and his family over cows or a tortoise? I think not. The government could care less about that, what are they really after???



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:29 PM
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while i know it has almost zero chance of occurring but what IF the govenor deploys the national gaurd to the mans ranch.....i mean that is almost solely under the control of the Governor correct? i mean could they not in theory be "higher up the chain" then federal officals?

www.nevadaappeal.com... i guess it relates to that old huge thread on the wild mustangs too ?

www.thetruthaboutguns.com...


en.wikipedia.org... some info on grazing rights from wiki for what its worth

In 1934, the Taylor Grazing Act formally set out the federal government's powers and policy on grazing federal lands by establishing the Division of Grazing and procedures for issuing permits to graze federal lands for a fixed period of time. The Division of Grazing was renamed the US Grazing Service in 1939 and then merged in 1946 with the General Land Office to become the Bureau of Land Management, which along with the United States Forest Service oversees public lands grazing in 16 western states today.[3] However, grazing was never established as a legal right in the U.S.,[4] and the Taylor Grazing Act authorized only the permitted use of lands designated as available for livestock grazing while specifying that grazing permits "convey no right, title, or interest" to such lands.[5] Although the regulations stipulated by the Taylor Grazing Act apply only to grazing on Bureau of Land Management lands, the Chief of the Forest Service is authorized to permit or suspend grazing on Forest Service administered property, and many Forest Service grazing regulations resemble those of the Taylor Grazing Act.[6]
this seems to be the crux of the federal issue on grazing rights



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:34 PM
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dont know about all of them but one group is from my state montana and as far as i know from talking to some people in town they left the guns at home and brought cameras ,from what ive managed to scrounge up info wise they just want to film it in hopes that they dont go full waco with cameras around but this is all from one local in town so cant confirm or deny it personally just what ive heard



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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tmeister182
The county sheriff has the Constitutional authority to make the feds leave and thereby defuse this situation.


I wonder if the Sheriff will tell Bundy the same thing he told him two years ago. "These are federal lands. They can do what they want to do". So Bundy is clearly in the wrong.


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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:40 PM
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Mods. Befoteitwasnews was banned from the forum unless things changed.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:41 PM
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gariac

Remember the BLM is very pro-rancher.


I am with you. My family grazed cattle in Colorado and Wyoming, and paid for the right, on BLM land. I was and am merely providing some local news from here in Southern Nevada.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:44 PM
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As I stated, Gillespie will do NOTHING out in the Bunkerville area. He will not enforce the laws he was elected for. I do not agree with the Governor either.

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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:46 PM
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RalagaNarHallas
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while i know it has almost zero chance of occurring but what IF the govenor deploys the national gaurd to the mans ranch.....i mean that is almost solely under the control of the Governor correct? i mean could they not in theory be "higher up the chain" then federal officals?

Unfortunately, most of the NV NG units are deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
(sarcasm intended)
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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:54 PM
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Latest news from the Bundys.




posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:57 PM
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Do the owners of the ranch at least have a 'land easement'??? I'm in NJ, on a little more then 5 acres & some of that is our land easement....township considers it ours, so the neighbors got chased off. I'm wondering who exactly has the rights to the ranchers piece of land? But I do agree with the previous posters. Government wants something from that land. They need to do their job and protect & serve, not harrass the ranchers.....
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