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200 to 300 Miles Per Gallon for a car is to good to import to America ? Mileage tax ?

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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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Why picking on "America"? I'm not aware of them being driven around in any country. Do you see them in Australia? So it's the Australians fault! Do you see them in Brazil? So it's the Brazilians fault! Do you see them in Canada? Damn Canadians, it's all their fault!!!




posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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But what's the purpose of a 5ton truck? To haul stuff. So it actually has to power the 5 ton truck to a point where it can haul 20 tons, at an efficient speed to get a job done in a reasonable amount of time. What your talking about is nonsense.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 12:59 PM
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With a 2 cyl modern computer controlled engine and a hybrid power system plus a aluminum and very light weight composite body i likely could get something like this to get about 100mpg.
It might get up to 55mph. and only one person could fit in it.
cache.wists.com...

I would love to find a old messerschmitt car cheap just to try playing with it.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 03:09 PM
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JimTSpock
I've been working on high performance cars for years. I've heard just about all the crazy claims. There is no way my car would have anything other than top quality high performance parts installed.

If you want to try it out on your car be my guest but don't be surprised if you need a new engine after 100 miles.

There is a limited amount of energy in petrol and diesel fuel. Modern internal combustion engine design has reached a very high level of efficiency and engineering.

If you really want to use less fuel you're going to have to go to a hybrid car. Or buy a scooter. Or maybe a tiny little 4 cylinder Honda.

The fossil fuel powered internal combustion engine has already been engineered to the nth degree. The future is probably with hybrid petrol or diesel and electric motors or further into the future hydrogen fuel cells running electric motors.


OR, we go back to alcohol(which we can produce forever, as opposed to fossil fuels, which will eventually run out)

OR, instead of "hydrogen fuel cells", we go to straight hydrogen systems, like the united nuclear system..

i find your lack of faith disturbing...VW wouldn't be able to make the claim, if the engine didn't deliver..



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 03:13 PM
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Sorry buddy, but the 1st video is a stock Duramax diesel engine on that truck. The last video is a stock Kensworth as well. The only modded truck was the 2nd video. Yes you are right about the 2nd video, I read the time wrong. But it was a close race lol.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 03:35 PM
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JimTSpock
This VW X1 is not a good car. It costs over $120,000. You're not going to save any money on fuel paying that much for a tiny VW when you could buy a decent hybrid car in America for about $30,000.

You can have the 2014 Ford Fusion hybrid for $25,881. A better car at a fraction of the price.

usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...

Oh but the government and big oil are in a conspiracy to deprive Americans of economical cars. I forgot.

The fact is the American market is very different to the European market. Their fuel prices are much higher so they tend to buy smaller cars.
Americans want bigger more powerful cars and they buy them. Americans love their big huge SUVs and they buy them in huge numbers.


read the article... it costs $60,000...not over 120..

and i, personally HATE, LOATHE, and DESPISE how cars keep getting bigger, and uglier, and less efficient, and loaded up with more and more crap nobody needs....

perfect example: the nissan pathinder...

in my opinion, the best model year for that truck was 1995(the half year that WASN'T built with crap steel). after '95, they changed the body design, switched to uni-body construction, instead of body-on-frame...this was the beginning of the end for the pathfinder..as the years progressed, it inflated, became bulkier, and heavier, and uglier, and then they went back to the drawing boards, and now it's basically a lame-ass estate car...

i'll take a '95 pathfinder, or a 2000-2001(only good model years) X-Terra any day....i'm sick of bloated cars that look like toys....



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 03:41 PM
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got a link?



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 03:43 PM
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JimTSpock
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Maybe you want to put a 32 speed gearbox in a car I don't know. Clearly you don't understand how gears work and how different gear ratios work or the difference between tall and short gear ratios. You can't just say I want 100 gear ratios and that will fix everything even though I'm trying to power a truck with 20hp. lol.
With no friction or wind resistance or hills your idea would work but acceleration would be very slow.

Have you ever even done any work on a real car? I've done pretty much everything. Engine swaps, clutch, gearbox, diff, head gasket, suspension, ECU. I've mentioned the CVT transimssion with effectively unlimited gear ratios and does that give you better performance in the real world, not really. You think you know better than the major car manufacturers of the world, I doubt it.

I'm a rev head and have been working on high performance cars for many years and to tell you the truth I found most of what you said to be complete nonsense which has no bearing in the real world. What is faster a 4x4 or a Corvette? And why? And who has the highest top speed and why?


ever think that maybe the major manufacturers DO know better, but they're holding things back, and lying about it?

money does strange things to people, especially when they know they'll never be caught..



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 03:50 PM
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freedomSlave
It confuses me how diesel a lesser grade of fuel is soooooooooo much more expensive than gasoline . Not sure what the prices of diesel in other countries it is almost 20 cents more expensive here than low grade gasoline.

ETA I suppose with higher diesel prices will start driving up prices of commodities the cycle will just continue as they will keep raising the cost of fuel , while selling more and more diesel vehicles driving up the cost for diesel . Why not save the big power of diesels for the work trucks . I guess the vw rabbit was appealing when diesel was so much cheaper than gas , mind if someone has a car that does 200miles to a gallon wouldn't be so bad how ever trying to afford a car like that is never going to happen for me and many
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it confuses me how people still think we need to pay for the privilege of disposing of the petroleum company's industrial waste products...

if people had sense, they'd be pushing HARD for a transition back to alcohol, or a straight hydrogen system...

prohibition was a conspiracy.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 03:58 PM
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I don't think they are stock at all, I can tell just by the sound of the engines. I just don't believe you at all. They are still slower than a stock 2011 ZR1. Show me a stock 12.02 sec truck then?

Dodge Ram SRT10 at 13.8 1/4 is the fastest I think. So you are just lying.
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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:00 PM
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Well I read in another article it costs $120,000 and another said $147,000 so I'm not sure about that. Anyway I don't think I'll be buying one.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:06 PM
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As wonderful as this seems we need something else in this country (USA)

We will never get such a car even if they did make them full production cars.

The Volt as well as any Tesla car are expensive cruel jokes to play on a consumer.

What we Need is smaller vehicles that CAN be easily and cheaply run on electric batteries !!

My E-bike ( mountain bike with electric motor) cost total less than 1000 dollars. It has a 48 volt power source and regulator. It goes 30 miles an hour tops but can travel a distance of 20 miles between charges.. 10 there and 10 back. Plenty enough for running around most cities. Battery charges in about 6 hours. Carries my 140 lbs and up to 50 lbs of groceries. It's similar to this one ( this page has instructions) on how to DIY. www.electricbike.com...

Sure if you are a family you'd want something a little heavier like a 3 or 4 wheel e-bike made with a canopy cockpit so you can have a two seater at least No on is making these but we have the technology, it can be done for under 5000 dollars easily.

I also like the new Compressed Air Car technology being developed in France.It looks like zeropollutionmotors.us... is going to make these for sale in the USA. These cars are developed by MDI en.wikipedia.org... .

Here's a vid of the company testing their Convertible model called the OneFlowAir




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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:07 PM
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JimTSpock
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Well I read in another article it costs $120,000 and another said $147,000 so I'm not sure about that. Anyway I don't think I'll be buying one.


gotta love conflicting info...

the article in the OP said 60k... -shrug- whatever, i'm not interested in one either...it looks like s**t, and if i had 60-147 thousand dollars, i'd be spending it on more practical things..i'd never blow that much on a car, unless i had just won the lotto...then i'd be off to buy a low-milage '07 NIssan GT-R



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:12 PM
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JohnPhoenix
As wonderful as this seems we need something else in this country (USA)

We will never get such a car even if they did make them full production cars.

The Volt as well as any Tesla car are expensive cruel jokes to play on a consumer.

What we Need is smaller vehicles that CAN be easily and cheaply run on electric batteries !!

My E-bike ( mountain bike with electric motor) cost total less than 1000 dollars. It has a 48 volt power source and regulator. It goes 30 miles an hour tops but can travel a distance of 20 miles between charges.. 10 there and 10 back. Plenty enough for running around most cities. Battery charges in about 6 hours. Carries my 140 lbs and up to 50 lbs of groceries. It's similar to this one ( this page has instructions) on how to DIY. www.electricbike.com...

Sure if you are a family you'd want something a little heavier like a 3 or 4 wheel e-bike made with a canopy cockpit so you can have a two seater at least No on is making these but we have the technology, it can be done for under 5000 dollars easily.

I also like the new Compressed Air Car technology being developed in France.It looks like zeropollutionmotors.us... is going to make these for sale in the USA. These cars are developed by MDI en.wikipedia.org... .

Here's a vid of the company testing their Convertible model called the OneFlowAir




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compressed air is nice, but...no, just no....

and while electric cars are a cool idea, and are "technically" cleaner in daily operation, you hafta take into account the messy batteries, and what happens to them when they go bad....until we can produce LARGE graphine "batteries", electric cars are just not gonna be where they need to be...

plus, what to do about the current ICE cars...

and ICE can be very easily converted to run on either petrol, or alcohol..just flip a switch, and you're off...an ICE can also be converted to run on hydrogen...

ideally, you have a hydrogen/alcohol system, completely cut petrol out of the equation...
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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:16 PM
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Love the Nissan GTR. Or a Porsche 911 Turbo S. I posted a video on the previous page with an 850HP GTR. Got to 300km/h very fast. Insane car.

But it can be beaten by a stock truck according to ... what's his name. lol.

I think purely electric cars won't be a very attractive option for consumers in the future unless the battery capacity and lifespan can be improved significantly. Hybrid petrol/diesel and electric cars seem like a good compromise for the immediate future.
And in the longer term I think hydrogen fuel cells and electric motors will probably be the future for the car. Unless we can make some new type of powerplant for the car I don't see too many other options.
The ultimate powerplant for a car or truck would have to be a small nuclear fusion reactor. Imagine filling your car up with a glass of water a month and that is all the fuel it requires. Of course that's just my own speculation but one day we should have viable nuclear fusion reactors and with more engineering we should be able to make them small enough to power cars. Then we can work on the anti-gravity nuclear fusion powered flying car. Should be fun to drive.
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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 04:36 PM
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JimTSpock
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Love the Nissan GTR. Or a Porsche 911 Turbo S. I posted a video on the previous page with an 850HP GTR. Got to 300km/h very fast. Insane car.

But it can be beaten by a stock truck according to ... what's his name. lol.


now, now, no need to be antagonistic.....

if i could get an '07 GT-R, i'd do it up like the "black mask" prototype...that looked SO cool, lol

i hate 911's...they're so...boring, lol they all look very same-ish. i gotta have some originality



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 06:24 PM
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JimTSpock
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Well I read in another article it costs $120,000 and another said $147,000 so I'm not sure about that. Anyway I don't think I'll be buying one.


They are only making 250 of them, and most pricing I see is in the $145k range. Which explains why they would only make 250. It's a concept type car, not a viable legitimate commercial enterprise (currently).

Therefore the main point of the OP is bunk. Another American basher spouting nonsense and not able to do the research needed to actually provide anything more than negative mantra.

To the OP: Drink your kool-aid elsewhere.

Here
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posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 06:28 PM
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I agree, electric cars are just not very practical. As they currently stand, I would not buy one. Someone could give me one, but hey...I am sure anyone will take freebies.

And...unless your energy comes directly from a Nuclear power plant odds are high that your electric car has a higher carbon footprint than a modern gas burner.



posted on Apr, 10 2014 @ 06:48 PM
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Bedlam
Now, you were saying?


i was saying i wanted you to source your assertions....which you did, thank you.



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