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awakendhybid Almost everything I come across gets run through my "feelings filters" to get an idea about what I really think about that information. Even after I've made a decision on that information though I still tend to question it. I still tend to wonder if my personal opinions have been somehow affected by conditioning or if it is really a TRUTH poking at me to accept it.And, I don't know, I guess if I still end up not trusting 'truths that resonate with me' then I suppose it is me I don't trust yet.
vethumanbeing
What changed exactly. I was able to see my plan as it unfolded instantly; "right this is true I planned this and remember down to the seconds of the occurance". What happened that caused you to doubt your own plan? You continue to speak of a believe plan; yours or someone elses. I never had a plan of belief, I am the actuator of an event. Belief in a world being revealed to you moment to moment?
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vethumanbeing …I see this only as a test of your own verve; what was presented to you was you greatest fear factor or the other; a sublime/subliminal sexual componant you are unconciously attacted to. …
vethumanbeing …Why are you allowing yourself to continue to be degraded (I dont care if they are dreamscape or not) why are you confined to remember/imprinted upon your human soul. Get a backbone. You are not Dyonisis, you are not a harpy fated to be the one that is to have a liver plucked at 4:00 PM. You do not as a Titan are Thalos guarding Zues's treasures. You do not really have 'phonaphobia' and live in fear of the ringing of such.
veteranhumanbeing …Your perceptions are always 'TIMED" in order for you to slot them into the appropriate "I got this I get this" awareness of 'something else' just in the nick of time. Have you given a thought to your sequence of professions and why you engaged in them? There is a clue here very obvious to me.
Riffrafter
reply to post by vethumanbeing
12:34....indeed.
Back later...it seems this thread has grown.
DonVoigt
reply to post by infoseeker26754
I think you took my comment a little too seriously. Bahahaha , slow your roll, it's ok to wear a tinfoil hat, I wear one to, you don't have to wear one that's so tight.
vethumanbeing
What changed exactly. I was able to see my plan as it unfolded instantly; "right this is true I planned this and remember down to the seconds of the occurance". What happened that caused you to doubt your own plan? You continue to speak of a believe plan; yours or someone elses. I never had a plan of belief, I am the actuator of an event. Belief in a world being revealed to you moment to moment?
WanDash Regarding the ‘belief in a plan’… I actually had no such belief, at the time. I had been searching with some degree of vigor since the Two Owls experience…to fill the vacancy in my belief-system hotel.
WanDash When this ‘Experience’ began – I started trying to explain/understand it…One of the explanations had to do with me being ‘special’…and that someOne or someThing much bigger than me was ‘in charge’ of what was going on
And – because of the barrage of synchronistic events…I was convinced (growing convinced) that everything that was happening, and my entire life that preceded…and what would come…had all been ‘scripted’, and was being enforced/implemented by the same someOne-or-Thing – meaning – beyond my control or influence. …Even considering the premise of the OP of this thread.
vethumanbeing …I see this only as a test of your own verve; what was presented to you was you greatest fear factor or the other; a sublime/subliminal sexual componant you are unconciously attacted to. …
WanDash That could be. But, a part of what you mentioned earlier – regarding ‘communication with or trust in a higher self/soul/whatever’ was really what took me down the rabbit hole of hopelessness & despair.
WanDash Explaining or detailing that transformation would be exhaustive (for you, me and anyone-else trying to skip past page after page of this long story)…And, other than giving context to what led up to the bared-neck and the ensuing months, I don’t think it’s necessary at this moment in our conversation.
vethumanbeing …Why are you allowing yourself to continue to be degraded (I dont care if they are dreamscape or not) why are you confined to remember/imprinted upon your human soul. Get a backbone. You are not Dyonisis, you are not a harpy fated to be the one that is to have a liver plucked at 4:00 PM. You do not as a Titan are Thalos guarding Zues's treasures. You do not really have 'phonaphobia' and live in fear of the ringing of such.
WanDash I’m sure it has to do with ‘beliefs’. I was beaten as a child…if I fought anyone. Beaten twice if I got in trouble for fighting. I never started a fight (except, possibly, with my brother – which is always, arguably, a matter of opinion).The beatings were always worse than any pain or injury that might have been acquired in a fight.
WanDash That said to preface – “I thought/believed someOne-or-Thing was in charge…and, by virtue of the ‘evidences’ that led me to such a ‘belief’…I had no say, nor control…and resistance would be futile, or even result in greater hardship.”
I am not defending said beliefs or actions…just identifying them.
WanDash At one point – (I thought many hours had passed – but it was actually only 2 hours or less) – I wondered why I wasn’t dead… I then began to wonder what would happen if I did the unthinkable – and…tried to leave the room.
I arose from the chair – told them I was leaving…and they did everything possible – without physically accosting me – to stop me from doing what I’d said… Blocked the doorway – Said “You can’t leave - We’re not finished” – etc… Eventually, I persisted and got through the door… They rushed around me, to get in front again, and resumed their insistence that I could not go… Don’t remember many specifics of that dialogue, but, I did get past them…and left.
infoseeker26754
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Now I am Not! Wook Free for 3 Days!!!! What a week, bring me more! Ha Ha Ha.
Lets see, anything is possible and my beliefs system no longer exist so we are good! Sincw just heard Christ was actually colored, Rome at the time before X-mas started was really into some sick sex partys, and Christmas was pretty much made up! Explains the santa x-mas idea, since here in the US. We pretty much base everything on what we spend during the Season, yet most is on credit to the poor is actually even poorer if you ask me!
InfoseekerOne time I upset Vet saying everything was hogwash! Every idea I could actually ponder was basicly coming back to myself. Vet has a way of talking to different Energys, I have to say I relate to Voices. They question everything I do, and wonder why I go off the train of thought sometimes. Just because you hear something does not mean it's true, real or has any meaning until one gets a chance to take a look.
Infoseeker You create a belief out of all the experences so far today. It changes, grow and som parts fade away. What I'm trying to say is I'm making soup! Add this, some of that, something new to the pot of my best Soup in the World! Next week while I'm doing it again, something is either added or did not like the Blending. Used to much, some little at all, yet switch everything!
WanDashThe location was a ‘field-office’, that was also a house. I had been staying there through the weeks for many months, and would return to my home, a hundred-or-so miles away on weekends.Now – here’s another odd part… The project I was working on had been going for 3+ years.
WanDash Two days after that night of horror…the client shut the project down. So – I had to return to the office-house to retrieve my effects. When I arrived – they (and only they) were there, and tried to resume right where we left-off a few nights before. I went about my business while they tried to get me to engage… Finally, I had everything in my vehicle…was in the vehicle, engine running…and one of them got in front of it (one of their vehicles was parked behind it) and the other was tapping vehemently on my driver-side window, insisting that I roll it down. I did…and…well…you don’t need to know that part, now - - - but, as soon as I could, I began inching forward, until they threw their hands up in disgust and exasperation…and I left (one of them continued talking at me, even as I drove away).
WanDash They began calling me… (no longer affiliated by work – so, should have been no good reason) …in fact – they are the only ‘affiliates’ (except one other – that came later) that have ever called me, once we were no longer affiliated by a common project. Constantly trying to insist that I had to return to ‘tie up some daily-contrived loose ends’ of one kind or another (they each lived/resided in that community).
WanDash I always felt obligated ( since I had believed that this was all scripted by the Big someOne-or-Thing) to answer their calls…until one day, recalled that I had been able to get up from the chair and walk away from them –and– decided ‘not’ to answer.After weeks of not answering, or only returning a select few of their calls…they stopped calling.
veteranhumanbeing …Your perceptions are always 'TIMED" in order for you to slot them into the appropriate "I got this I get this" awareness of 'something else' just in the nick of time. Have you given a thought to your sequence of professions and why you engaged in them? There is a clue here very obvious to me.
WanDash I don’t think I have considered the ‘timing of perceptions’, before. But, now that you mention it…
The parties noted above, were boyfriend/girlfriend.
About six months after I stopped taking their calls…and they stopped calling…they called again – this time, in some desperation, as one of them was going into the hospital – fearing for their own life. I met them at the hospital…and they were nothing-like they had been before.
WanDash A year later, the one that had gone into the hospital was hired by my employer…and placed under my supervision. She tried to get me to do her work for her (as was her custom). I refused, and she left.
So – while on the night of the events (and for some time after), I perceived her/them to be ‘Inter-Dimensional Vampires’…I can now see that they definitely had/have vampirical natures in this world, regardless of the validity of the formerly-perceived “Inter-Dimensional” quality. Sequence of professions…
Maybe I should give that a go.
infoseeker26754
reply to post by WanDash
… …You create a belief out of all the experences so far today. It changes, grow and som parts fade away. What I'm trying to say is I'm making soup! Add this, some of that, something new to the pot of my best Soup in the World! Next week while I'm doing it again, something is either added or did not like the Blending. Used to much, some little at all, yet switch everything!
…If interested, try grabbing the Satan Bible and read the Intro! …
infoseeker26754
…Where are the Dragons bones? That word is written down even on stone and nope. Never Existed! …
infoseeker26754
reply to post by WanDash
…Dude! Do hope you were at Ordway, CO! Hell, single cell, drugs and hooch! You who think Prisons are closed, cold and nasty! Wrong! Home is where the Heart Is! Learn to accept anything as Home, you are doing Good! One could either cry or make Hell Home. LOL …
infoseeker26754
…Prisons are a waste of money! Should be lockdown 24/7 have nothing, and luckie to eat twice a day! End of Prison system, and crime! …
vethumanbeing
What was the catalyst? You began your search at some point the owls? …
vethumanbeing …So you are finally coming into the understanding you are the protagonist the one that created this/these events in order to wake yourself up from this dream that is 3D; you finally realize as the orchestrator you now must discover what your 'plan' is. No one else scripted this for you; you are the one in charge. …
vethumanbeing …I know exactly why; as you planned it all; you for some reason disallowed your higher selves to talk to you (rescue you when in dire straits). In order to explain this: I told my higher beingness before I incarnated to not interfere even if I was suffering/suicidal/exploring very dark human emotional places; its a necessary evil to have to experience. You seem to be beating yourself up over this simple exploration which to me is perfectly normal for one exploring soul existance on earth. STOP. …
vethumanbeing …The fact you observed a transformation within yourself is remarkable. I usually write them down document them; as perhaps one day will all be revealed as the ravings of a crazy person or that which we all are just recognised sooner than the average bear. …
vethumanbeing …How can I explain this to you "SOMETHING IS IN CHARGE" and its US. We are God Partical and will not wake up to realize it. We are not Demi-God possessions we are not evolved from a simian specie. WE ARE IT. …
vethumanbeing …I had a similar expirence; I was told you cannot leave yet, you have to interview with another board certified something or other. So another 30 minutes elapsed as there was no reason to detain me I was let go. The initial psychiatrist (I freely chose to see as he needed to have some information regarding these strange occurances happening in my life) chased me down in the parking lot saying "no dont go I need to talk to you"; I turned to him and told him "YOUR WIFE THAT LEFT YOU 2 MONTHS AGO IS NEVER COMING BACK TO YOU". He stood there open mouthed. He blew a great chance into delving into the mind of what exactly (I didnt have to pay for a session as if ever I would; they were happy to talk to me up to a point where for them it became risky either "diagnose" or publish rubbish (I allowed it reason being; to prove a point somewhere is recorded (akashic record) that the psychiatric community in this decade is FLAWED in its method). Ill address the second half of your post later. …
Baddogma
Hmmm... that was a half-arssed OP.... seemingly whizzed up on a phone between the hash bar and the potty... but the fact that it gained traction and is now on the "front page" speaks volumes about something or other.
But as people are only capable of focusing on one or three things at a time, taking a second to ponder this thing, life, we are experiencing is never a bad thing... unless one is morbid and realizes we could be puppets ...at the whim of a dreadful, deranged, bored god-entity.
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