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Another banker found dead, along with wife and daughter.

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posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 12:46 AM

The WHO estimates that approximately 1 million people per year commit suicide. Or 16 per 100,000.

The financial services industry in the UK employs 1,045,500 people.

By these numbers if suicide were spread evenly across the population, you would expect over 160 bankers to be killing themselves in the UK alone in the space of a year.

Therefore the only conclusion is that the financial services sector is *significantly* less prone to suicide than other sectors, and there is absolutely zero evidence of any sort of wave of bankers killing themselves because they know something bad is coming.

The number includes entry-level positions as well as odd-ball jobs like IT department folks. "Financial sector" is an extremely broad category.

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 12:47 AM

A good friend of mine works in the financial sector and told me that within the last year he/she has seen a number of execs and C-level individuals resign or retire without any real cause. Many of these individuals were at the height of their careers, all making serious money, and they all just walked away.

The CEO of my friend's company just up and quit for no reason. No scandal, no dip in earnings (the company was actually doing better than ever at the time), no reason that could explain the CEO's sudden departure from an x-million/year job.

So yeah, a bunch of these people are committing suicide or getting offed, and we know about those. But I'd really like to see the stats on how many people are escaping the financial sector in other less dramatic ways. It appears like there's a ton of people seeking to distance themselves from the financial sector, almost like they want to be disassociated whatever is about to next unfold.

I don't know about you, but I can see the writing on the wall. Seems almost like there's a storm coming.

Oh gosh, this REALLY ties things in, at least to me. I think you hit the nail on the head, well at least in the best means to conspire about what could be indeed going on.

Things to ponder indeed. A bad bad storm approaches, methinks. The storm of the century, really.

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 12:49 AM

Does anyone believe that suicide by a nail gun is even possible if it were to take more than one shot? I mean after the first and it didn't work, who could continue after realizing the pain? This is, as someone already said, beyond the pale. Truly unbelievable.

I know right! After the pain from your first shot you would have seconds thoughts.

I thought the point of committing suicide was to end your pain, not to prolong it.

Seems a little odd to me

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 12:54 AM
The nail gun could have just been an accident whilst doing some DIY - happens all the time.

On a serious note, the nail gun is not the choice of weapon for the modern hitman, see you have to take the nail gun and a compressor, charge it all up then sneak right upto the victim before firing 4-6 nails into the skull.

Also, in order to push someone off a roof, you have to get them up there, unless they like cheese and you leave a trail of it all the way up to the edge of the roof and then grease up the retaining wall/fence its pretty hard convincing them to join you.

Sorry but I dont go in for this, Fugu liver is the future.

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 12:55 AM
reply to post by mrphilosophias

We are all being "punished" by "god".

Ever hear of karma?

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 12:59 AM

I think you hit the nail on the head

I see what you did there!!

I wonder how many times, prior to nail guns, people committed suicide by hammering 4 x 6inch nails through their scull?

Perhaps you could dive head first onto a bed of nails?

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 01:38 AM
All of this gives me a very bad feeling. Like most of you, I feel some monumental catastrophe is coming.
I think if anyone can put up a few canned goods every week, they'd better. I think it's going to be of that caliber.
I don't buy the guy shooting himself multiple times with a nail gun.
I believe after I shot myself once I'd go " **** that hurts"!!!! and quit!

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 02:20 AM
The nail gun bit got me curious. But it seems to be quite possible. I guess this is mainly due to brain having no pain receptors, so it is only the skin around the bone that hurts.

Man was found to have 12 nails embedded in his skull from a suicide attempt

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 02:37 AM

The nail gun bit got me curious. But it seems to be quite possible. I guess this is mainly due to brain having no pain receptors, so it is only the skin around the bone that hurts.

Man was found to have 12 nails embedded in his skull from a suicide attempt

Yes, that and the metaphetamine...

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 03:28 AM
Maybe people are realizing that a life based solely on money is completely worthless. These are some of the most shallow and petty people out there. Maybe they're waking up to this fact and offing themselves or walking away from it all entirely.

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 03:29 AM

Talley the nail gun suicide is the real knee splapper...#5 on your list.

Shot himself no less than 7 or 8 times with a nail know a lot of bankers that even know how to hook-up a nail gun let alone shoot themselves 7 or 8 times.

C'mon beyond the pale.

Many nail guns can fire 1, 2, 3 nails per second, so you'd only have to have your finger on the trigger a couple of seconds to get 7 nails out.

It's gruesome, but not implausible. So while there may well be more than meets the eye in the continuing banker deaths, using the nail gun as proof of the sinister is a red herring.

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 03:40 AM
I think, especially after Corzine's son, it goes to show that even at the very top people are living out of fear for their lives and the lives of there loved ones. For sure there are many we demonize who are stuck in the position of being accessories out of pure fear of the game.

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 03:56 AM
Before my fascination with aliens [UFO type] I used to specialize in reading books on organized crime [ie. the Mafia] and even read some of the less popular ones on subjects such as money laundering and bank fraud. And do you know what?, and not to anyone's surprise, mobsters of all sorts have been, and probably still are invading the banking and financial sector of the US and probably every other country in the world - And these people play for keeps - no holds barred - no prisoners taken. When you are playing in the high stakes games of money laundering and fraud mistakes must be covered and weak links must be eliminated. Now what percentage of people in the financial sector or the economy such as bankers and stock brokers are playing with fire and the underworld? 1%, 2% or maybe even higher say 5 or 10%? Once a banker shakes hands with the devil there is no turning back and accordingly some may be getting themselves killed or rather than put up with their unfortunate friends any longer they decide to end it all! Bernard Madoff is far from the only rotten apple in the financial sector - In fact, and this is a matter of opinion, I believe the most serious problem the economies of the world face is corruption in the financial sector! - nothing new you say? So why be surprised over a few deaths in the financial sector?

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 04:04 AM
reply to post by sarra1833

So what if these aren't suicides? And does anyone know if the death rate is going up or staying the same compared to the past?
edit on 07amMon, 07 Apr 2014 04:08:54 -0500kbamkAmerica/Chicago by darkbake because: (no reason given)

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 04:28 AM

reply to post by sarra1833

So what if these aren't suicides? And does anyone know if the death rate is going up or staying the same compared to the past?
edit on 07amMon, 07 Apr 2014 04:08:54 -0500kbamkAmerica/Chicago by darkbake because: (no reason given)

And that too is a good point. 12 bankers? not 1200, not even 120 - what kind of conclusion can one reach when talking about such a small number of deaths when there are probably thousands of executives in the banking industry? I love to hear good conspiracy theories but at this point there is no indication of any such thing occurring. And like i said a few rotten apples getting themselves in over their heads for dealing with the underworld of world finance and then ending up dead is still to be expected.

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 05:50 AM
reply to post by TheSparrowSings

There might be another one the young lady who was ceo of one of the bitcoin firms..

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 06:14 AM
reply to post by sarra1833

No - the list is at 20 now... you are missing some here:

Here is the list of names and dates:

To explain why some names are included, Eicher and Schloter were close friends, and Schloter was CEO of a telecommunications company that handles 60% of all land-based phone line services and 62% of all of Switzerland's cellular phone services. They also were right before the string of suicides throughout the banking sector.

David Bird of the Wall Street Journal went missing when he was in the middle of a huge breaking story, concerning OPEC according to all those close to him, he went for a short walk and never came back, his body has never been found. I am adding him because a reporter in the middle of this might be very important especially considering petro-dollars.

Tata motors I have no idea what the connection may be, but everyone else keeps listing him so I am keeping him here.

That said: Here is the list, it is up to you if you want to say some of the names count or not:

1. ABC Verlag (greetings cards, not finance) — CEO Daniel Eicher — suicide, left two notes — week of 6/10/2013

2. Swisscom (telecom) – CEO Carsten Schloter, 49 — suicide, found hanging — 7/23/13

3. Bank of America — intern Moritz Erhardt, 21 — seizure due to exhaustion — week of 8/12/2013

4. Zurich Insurance Group AG (insurance) — CFO Pierre Wauthier — suicide, found hanging, left two notes — 8/26/2013

5. Wall Street — hedge fund exec Robert Wilson, 87 — suicide, jumped from 16th floor — week of Dec 23, 2013. (He gave away $800 million prior to death.)

6. Wall Street Journal — reporter David Bird – missing/disappeared – 1/11/2014 (covered in our original piece)

7. Swiss Re AG — U.K.–based communications director Tim Dickenson — cause not released — week of 1/19/2014

8. Deutsche Bank AG — executive William Broeksmit — apparent suicide, found hanging— 1/26/14 (covered in our original piece)

9. JP Morgan — banker Gabriel Magee — jumped or fell from building, Canary Wharf, London — 1/28/14 (covered in our original piece)

10. Russell Investment — Mike Dueker, 50 — found dead next to Tacoma Narrows Bridge, suicide — week of 1/26/2014 (covered in our original piece)

11. JPMorgan — equities trading executive Ryan Crane, 37 — no cause given — 2/3/14

12. American Title (insurance) — CEO Richard Talley, 57 — suicide by nail gun,7 or 8 self-inflicted wounds — 2/7/14

13- Karl Slym, 51 year old Tata Motors managing director Karl Slym, was found dead on the fourth floor of the Shangri-La hotel in Bangkok on January 27th.

14 - Li Junjie, 33-year-old banker in Hong Kong jumped from the JP Morgan HQ in Hong Kong.

15- James Stuart Jr., National Bank of Commerce CEO was found dead in Scottsdale, Ariz., the morning of Feb. 19. No cause given.

16 - Autumn Radtke - CEO of First Meta Ltd.- found on the morning of February 26 - neighbors told police they suspected Radtke jumped from an apartment

17 - Jason Alan Salais, JPMorgan Chase since May 2008 - a 34-year old Information Technology specialist - December 15, Pearland, Texas police received a call of a person in distress outside a Walgreens pharmacy at 6122 Broadway in Pearland - Died, official cause heart attack.

18 - Jan Peter Schmittmann, 57, the former CEO of Dutch bank ABN Amro found dead at home near Amsterdam with wife and daughter. -

19 - Kenneth Bellando, 28, a trader at Levy Capital, formerly investment banking analyst at JPMorgan, jumped to his death from his 6th floor East Side apartment.

20 - Edmund (Eddie) Reilly, 47, a trader at Midtown’s Vertical Group, commited suicide by jumping in front of LIRR train

So the new list to include this man makes 20 - and now entire families are killed too. This is very bad.
edit on 7-4-2014 by OpinionatedB because: (no reason given)

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 06:29 AM
The the number that have died so far you'd think we'd have some kind of trigger figured out by now or at least some kind of linked even if they are tied to each other in some way besides being banker. Them being bankers or some how being tied to the banks makes us all look at it as odd, but have we gotten any closer to figuring out if they're tied together or not but some past or coming event?

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 06:32 AM
I wonder if there are statistics for suicides in other professions over a similar time span.

It's easy for things to appear singular when you're looking for them.

posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 06:35 AM
reply to post by McGinty

Immediately following the great depression 20 bankers committed suicide - with 100 more who followed over the course of the next year.. The financial sector has never seen so many suicides, all in VERY high level positions, since the great depression.

And this 20 so far is in lieu of any depression. What does that tell you?
edit on 7-4-2014 by OpinionatedB because: (no reason given)

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