Tea Party Support Dwindles To Record Low 22%

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Granted Bail?
Comments like that only show what a socialist/communist agenda driven person you are. The original Tea Party was started by regular small town Americans concerned about the abuse of power and irresponsible actions the federal elected officials use. Of course I suppose you do not understand abuse since you belittle yourself with shallow name calling. The foundation of the Tea Party is simple, financial responsibility, smaller government = more freedom, no corruption by elected officials. What part of that do you not agree with? These people were singled out because Obama called them Tea Partiers, he said it solely because he knew his re-election was on the line. Once he said that the mainly democrat unionized IRS felt they had free shots at these people to intimidate and obstruct their ability to raise funds, that is the definition of corruption. Of course we were once again lied to by the president, which seems to be a pathological issue with him, it was rogue agents. Even after Lerner pleads the fifth and there is an ongoing DOJ investigation (which is a joke), Obama says there is "not a smidgen" of corruption in the IRS. Once again he has sent the signal but this time to the DOJ - you better not find anything", intimidation, lies, deception, and NAME CALLING, the Obama legacy. Stay away Obot Troll.

reply to post by GrantedBail

The teaPartiers are so deeply embarrassing. They are the dumbed down knuckledraggers that have slept in caves in the bible belt and the south for centuries. However, they do have some dumb white people that have never read a book in their lives that follow them. They are retards.

Excellent example of the inability to state a fact based argument. Also an excellent example of racism. (dumb white people, really)

reply to post by GrantedBail


What exactly is it about the "Tea Party" that bothers you so much? You aren't just wary of them, you obviously have a visceral dislike of the TP. I know a few people who self-identify as Tea Partiers and while I don't agree with some of the policy positions they embrace they're far from evil and stupid and I can have an open and honest discussion with them. I'm pretty sure they've all read books too.

I couldn't really have answered this if I had been polled because, to be honest, I still can't figure out exactly what the Tea party is or means, and every time I go to try to figure it out I just see fringe crazy people who either make me laugh of scare me, and I think this is probably by design, the way they set it up that makes it so brilliant in rounding up the disenfranchised. Smoke and mirrors and no substance at all other than to be an obstacle to whatever someone wants blocked.

Thread headline change suggestion: "Obama's Support Dwindles to Record Low".

American People to render their verdict and dissatisfaction with liberal ideology and Democrats in general come the November 2014 mid-term elections. Just ask David Axelrod, he already knows...


Axelrod admits Dems have 'major hurdles,' after new poll

Former top Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod acknowledged Saturday that Democrats face tough challenges in November, following a new Associated Press-GfK poll that shows voters increasingly appear to want Republicans over Democrats to control Congress.

"Every bit of evidence points to stronger GOP turnout in a low turnout elections this fall. Major hurdle for Ds," Axelrod tweeted after the poll was released Saturday.

Support for the Tea Party is even lower now than it was in 2013.

It fizzed out as a fad that nobody took seriously.

It was hijacked by the radical extremist wing .

The Tea Party is basically a threat to the establishment. They won't go along with the big government collectivist agenda, so they are essentially targeted by the Democrats and establishment Republicans. They are Divergent. The Gop thought they could infiltrate and control them, but they failed. U can't control something that doesn't like the system in the first place by making them go along with the matrix.

Here is a summary of the Tea party principles and what they stand for:

1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged. - See more at: www.teaparty.org...

So, now you are enlightened as to what the Tea Party is all about.

Here is a summary of the Tea party principles and what they stand for:

1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged.

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And that entire list is one big thorn in the sides of Progressives.

And Liberals.

And Democrats.

And anyone who hates individualism and honesty.

And especially anybody who supports authoritarianism, totalitarianism and tyranny.

True, ...but what I find so perplexing, is that so many Progressives have such a hatred for the Tea Party...but when you ask them which of those core principles they don't agree with, they are all too short on coherent answers..., and big on insults, name calling, deflections, distractions, false accusations, baseless assumptions, and other liberal gobbly goop.

rickynews
True, ...but what I find so perplexing, is that so many Progressives have such a hatred for the Tea Party...but when you ask them which of those core principles they don't agree with, they are all too short on coherent answers, and big on insults, name calling, deflections, distractions and other liberal gobbly goop.

That's because it challenges the establishment.

Lots of money involved.

Amateur arguments show desperation.

Perhaps its not their fault though...Progressive and Liberal Ideological Brainwashing is probably a very difficult condition to break free from.

rickynews
Perhaps its not their fault though...Progressive and Liberal Ideological Brainwashing is probably a very difficult condition to break free from.

Yes.

I agree.

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AC, I think you are getting a false impression of the Tea Party. Yes there are some wackos and they make for good sound bites for quick media hit pieces. They aren't representative of most of the Tea Party.

rickynews
True, ...but what I find so perplexing, is that so many Progressives have such a hatred for the Tea Party...but when you ask them which of those core principles they don't agree with, they are all too short on coherent answers..., and big on insults, name calling, deflections, distractions, false accusations, baseless assumptions, and other liberal gobbly goop.

Lately, my (general) political "leaning" is closest to that portrayed by Jeff Daniels as Will McAvoy on HBO's The Newsroom. Especially during one episode where he said (paraphrasing), "I'm a conservative, but don't call be a Republican any more." That was during an episode dealing with "Tea Party" Republicans.

Before I get to a "coherent answer," I loath, hate, despise, anything espousing "Tea Party" affiliation -- and I'm not a so-called "progressive." The primary factor being the absolutism Tea Party politicians have injected into the political process. Stupid. Insane. Counterproductive. Hate-mongering. Idiocy. Toss-in the fact that Tea Party politicians are responsible for the rise of anti-smart pro-stupid, with a heaping portion of stinking religiosity.

There… now..

Some specifics from the stated de-facto Tea Party "platform."


Eliminate Excessive Taxes

Bam. Wrong. Ineffective absolutism. The "reduce taxes" is a farce and has only ever been applied by Tea Party blow-hards as a method to slash social programs. The great grandaddy of modern conservatism, Ronald Reagan (remember him), once said, "Our tax dollars need to be an investment in the future of this great country…" and went on to outline how tax dollars need to be more efficiently spent, including investments in society. The Tea Party wants to just slash and burn.


Eliminate the National Debt

Bam number two. Wrong number two. A sure-fire way to weaken the country, out of the mouths of imbeciles who embrace stupid. A government's debt cannot be compared to you and I having too many credit cards, as the TP people often do. Just use history as your barometer. During and after World War II, the national debt soared past 120% of GDP… pause on that … big number … followed by an amazingly long period of prosperity and growth. Just revisit history to understand how the debt was used to fuel growth.


Eliminate Deficit Spending

Wrong again. Periods where we have a balanced federal budget (or close to it) is almost always followed by a recession. Economics on this scale is as complex as molecular physics. See above, with debt-spending and look up "crowd-in" effect.


Protect Free Markets

Those same "free markets" responsible for every economic down-turn in the past 100 years? Sorry, we need oversight. Wrong again.


Abide by the Constitution of the United State

Then why are TP candidate/politicians trying to inject religion into public schools? Why are they against modest gun regulation? They're not abiding by their own platform.

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Not a bad reply indeed.

I suppose a knee-jerk reaction would be to offer a rebuttal with equal ambition and zeal.

But since this thread isn't in the "Mud-Pit" and likely won't be, the best response would be two-fold.

1. make normal points that counter the opinions and link to logical quotes and/or wiser opinions.

and/or

2. Cite the post and start a new thread in the correct forum political mud-pit

Am I warm ?



Maybe I'll try that tomorrow unless somebody beats me to the punch !

rickynews
Perhaps its not their fault though...Progressive and Liberal Ideological Brainwashing is probably a very difficult condition to break free from.

Sorry but this is such BS and blatantly so

This is what I can't stand about political idealogies. Both sides sit and tell the other side that they are guilty of being brainwashed, or slinging mud or lying and then sit on their own throne doing THE EXACT SAME THING

I don't mind whatsoever that people disagree with my Socialist tendencies...not one bit. I believe in the idea of freedom of thought and freedom of association. I am a hard leftie (with the exception of gun control) and I firmly believe you are more than capable and free to disagree with me

But don't sit here and pretend that the right or the tea party or the libretarians don't have it's share of brainwashed sycophants.

That is truly the thing I can't stand about BOTH sides...we all sit here and yell that the other side is guilty and brainwashed and they think they are clean and innocent

Now onto the Tea Party.

Is it so wrong to believe in Socialist tendencies? Well being on this site it apparently is. I came by my decisions and thoughts completely on my own. I've read into the idealogies and I see real problems with dissolving a good portion of government and here is why

While I agree that there are political scoundrels and liars in government, there are just as many in corporations, big pharma, big whatever to warrant the need of government oversight. I believe if we let businesses just go on their merry way without oversight there would be terrible consequences. Trickle down economics is such BS in my opinion. Why do CEO's need to make 20 million a year when their employees are makign minimum wage? Why not reinvest some of that into R/D or the employees' pockets in bonuses or what not?

But again if you disagree with that idea, that's fine and I support your position to do so. But please...let's not pretend the Right and the TP aren't just as guilty of corruption and brainwashing

I won't pretend that Obama has done terribly well in economic impact so dont' start with the Obama apologist. Frankly the one thing I think he HAS done well is his social policies. I am in love watching all these states grant SSM rights. Short of that, no I don't believe Obama has done well but I also believe McCain would have been just as bad

I get tired of the Traditional Values BS. Again this is my opinion. Traditional Values to me is just a vuzz-word (phrase) to tall people who are different that they aren't worth as much us traditional folks

again...my opinion

I think Lewis Black had it right -

"What's the difference between a Republican and a Democrat?

- A Republican sucks and a Democrat blows".

Say what you will about the Tea Party, they were able to pull of a first - Electing a group of people whose viewpoint did not quite fit in with Democrats or Republicans.

While they caucasus with the Republicans they are not in complete lock step.

Our government, specifically Congress, was never meant to be efficient. The ability of the minority to affect the direction of debate in this country is working as intended. That blueprint guarantees the minority opinion is heard.

With that said both parties are guilty of the all or nothing mindset. To fight with Democrats over who gets what and when and how much does not serve the purpose they were elected to office in the first place. When I vote, its because I believe the person I am voting for has the greater good at the forefront of their position.

The country is not 100% Democrats and it is not 100% Republicans.

The sooner both parties understand they took an oath of office and not an oath of party the sooner we can start fixing things. That is only going to occur if the people get involved and hold their officials accountable.

You may hate the Tea Party but the impact they had on the possibilities of electing non traditional candidates speaks volumes.

AngryCymraeg

Bassago
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Wonderful and thought provoking comments from the OP as usual!

That's a fact.Maybe he ran back to ask his handler for another link or something. I guess thread dumps are OK now, minimum input from the OP, one link and adios amigos.

As far as the Tea Party is concerned I don't think there would be such a fuss about them from the left or the right unless they were scared. The old guard should be scared and it ain't over till the fat lady sings.

"Handler"??
Ok, here's a perspective from the UK. The overall view of the Tea Party here is that they're nuts and that they're driving the Republicans so far to the right that they'll be banning the word 'left' soon.

Hay! That's what yous guys said about the original Tea Party! Glyndwr would be ashamed of u's! Bora Da!