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Gun Violence Rampant In Southern Red States

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posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:24 PM
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neo96
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I don't get why you need a list.

Our ancestors left Europe to come to America because we got tired of their snip.

Even formed our own country because of it.


That was also hundreds of years ago, sometimes things change in Hundreds of years.




posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:24 PM
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I'll give you one big one - educate your own children.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:26 PM
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Yet here we are, second time in thirty years when a lefty president has had to reverse the fiscal and economic mess conservatives leave behind. You may pretend you do no see it, but thank god reality is documented


Doesn't have anything to do with the topic.

Oh wait yes it does for over 70 years gun regulation has killed wealth,killed jobs,

Like all regulation does.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:28 PM
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That was also hundreds of years ago, sometimes things change in Hundreds of years.


So what ?

I don't want to end up like Native Americans.

Pushed off to a patch of dirt called reservation, and the government 'educated' them.fed them',clothed them, and banned them from owning guns.

Hey at least there might be a casino in us gun owners future !

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posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:28 PM
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The economy is NOT improving.

And this is way off topic.

Start another thread on how awesome Obama is.

This thread is based on a weak inconsistent study to try to prove that weak gun laws promote gun deaths.

Which it does NOT!



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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spurgeonatorsrevenge

That was also hundreds of years ago, sometimes things change in Hundreds of years.


More often then not, history repeats itself...


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posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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I did not know Chicago and Detroit (murder capitals of the USA) were located in Red states... ? I thought they had basically a gun ban ? Guess you learn something everyday ... (sarcasm to the max)

If guns did not exist then it would be something else to do the deed. The great thing about guns; they are a true equalizer. The 90 pound woman who is armed and knows how to use it can prevail against a 6' 7" sexual predator who wants to rape and mutilate just for the thrill of the act. Same with an old fellow who gets attacked by two thugs wanting to rob and beat him. Equalizer; none better in every sense of the word...which most totalitarian governments and control freaks really feel uneasy having around unless they have armed body guards and bullet proof vest.. Hummmmm

Death is death and the two below statistics really are a valid argument if people do care about unjust or accidental deaths....

In the United States about 3,700 babies are aborted each day or approximately 1,350,500 annually.. But they don't count for they were not wanted.. Death is death


An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors in each of the years 2000, 2001 and 2002, according to a new study of 37 million patient records that was released today by HealthGrades, the healthcare quality company.
"The HealthGrades study shows that the IOM report may have underestimated the number of deaths due to medical errors, and, moreover, that there is little evidence that patient safety has improved in the last five years," said Dr. Samantha Collier, HealthGrades' vice president of medical affairs. "The equivalent of 390 jumbo jets full of people are dying each year due to likely preventable, in-hospital medical errors, making this one of the leading killers in the U.S."

death is death
www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/11856
healthimpactnews.com/2011/prescription-drugs-now-kill...

by Dr. Mercola

Death by medicine is a 21st-century epidemic, and America’s “war on drugs” is clearly directed at the wrong enemy!

Prescription drugs are now killing far more people than illegal drugs, and while most major causes of preventable deaths are declining, those from prescription drug use are increasing, an analysis of recently released data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) by the Los Angeles Times revealed.

The Times analysis of 2009 death statistics, the most recent available, showed:
For the first time ever in the US, more people were killed by drugs than motor vehicle accidents
37,485 people died from drugs, a rate fueled by overdoses on prescription pain and anxiety medications, versus 36,284 from traffic accidents
Drug fatalities more than doubled among teens and young adults between 2000 and 2008, and more than tripled among people aged 50 to 69

Again, these drug-induced fatalities are not being driven by illegal street drugs; the analysis found that the most commonly abused prescription drugs like OxyContin, Vicodin, Xanax and Soma now cause more deaths than heroin and coc aine combined.

Death is death and that is the preferred way for women to kill themselves.. A few Martinis and a half bottle of their meds and a nice comfy bed...
Myself I would rather be armed in the chance someone breaks into my house or tries to beat/rob me on a street.. If I have to protect myself or others by pulling a gun and the bad guy runs off (happens every year somewhere between 750,000 and 1.2 million times) then I feel like all the training and work of owning a firearm was worth it.. If I have to shoot I have little doubt my life will never be the same even if I am totally justified.... however if I am forced to shoot I may not be just saving myself but all those the thug would have hurt after he learned how easy it is to take someone down who was unarmed. Repeat offender comes to mind

The numbers you posted from the cited source may be correct or not. With all the killing going on in this civilized country there are much bigger fish to fry if anyone rally does care about death. Also that pesky thing called the 2d amendment keeps getting in the way of any Pol Pot/Stalin wanna be....



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:33 PM
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beezzer
reply to post by spurgeonatorsrevenge
 


The economy is NOT improving.

And this is way off topic.

Start another thread on how awesome Obama is.

This thread is based on a weak inconsistent study to try to prove that weak gun laws promote gun deaths.

Which it does NOT!


Gun,ammo, and their accessories

IS A

Multibillion dollar industry that effect millions of people.

LOL.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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spurgeonatorsrevenge

TiedDestructor
The people who are jumping on the bandwagon of guns being solely made to kill are ignorant.

I shoot in various competitions including skeet, trap and 3 gun. My Benelli Supersport is a DEDICATED trap/skeet gun. It is heralded above field guns which are for killing...birds.

I also shoot an ar-15 made specifically for 3 gun competition. It's made by stag arms and called the STAG 3G. Guess what the 3G stands for.

I also own a few rimfire and centerfire target pistols marked...you guessed it...TARGET.

But go and tag on some scary/intimidating terms/names and turn these into "weapons of death".

I mean dang...


Guns are made to kill period.

They were not invented to skeet shoot, open cans, free fish from a fish tank, turn cheddar into Swiss or any other such purpose.

Guns were designed to kill at long distance as opposed to other weapons , all other uses are thanks to the imagination of man.


Holy facepalm batman!


"They were not invented to skeet shoot, open cans, free fish from a fish tank, turn cheddar into Swiss or any other such purpose."

I find your comparisons on the verge of hysterical. Many guns were invented for certain purposes. I need not copy and paste from google so have a go at it yourself.


"Guns were designed to kill at long distance"

Derringers, pocket autos, scatter guns and so on and so on and......I mean you leave me almost speechless. Stutter-typing and such.




posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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Gun,ammo, and their accessories

IS A

Multibillion dollar industry that effect millions of people.

LOL.


So is the drugs trade lol



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:42 PM
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game, set, match! Well done.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:47 PM
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PhoenixOD
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Gun,ammo, and their accessories

IS A

Multibillion dollar industry that effect millions of people.

LOL.


So is the drugs trade lol


Oh I was just talking about the government there.

That wasn't counting the private sector.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:47 PM
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If we could cultivate a culture where peace, love, and respect for each other( as religions use to teach) was fostered in the cultural discourse rather than constant violence being programmed in people through the mass media, then this debate over guns would be mute.

Exposing people in our culture to guns while they have been programmed from the mass media, is like pouring gasoline on fire… it spreads and will get worse.

I have great sympathy for both sides of this debate: the gunners are correct a gun doesn’t shoot itself, and the anti-gunners are correct when they aver that fewer guns equal less gun violence.

This debate won’t be solved, though, because the 2nd amendment gun culture is too strong a tradition here. So what should be done is a middle course where a serious attempt to lesson the violence in TV, movies, video games, and other cultural media outlets, and a general education programming of people of the value of peace.

But likely this won’t work either since the culture of violence, which includes war as well as everyday societal violence, is too profitable. The arms dealers and peddlers of violence in TV, music, and movies are getting filthy rich off their violent orientated entertainment.
We are addicted to it.

Even though people aren’t yet willing to sacrifice some of their “freedoms” to alleviate this problem; it is the only way it will be stopped.

Either the guns have to go, or tighter controlled, or their must be a control or a degree of censure of the violence in the mass media.

A hard choice has to be made, there is no alternative.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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LadySkadi

spurgeonatorsrevenge

That was also hundreds of years ago, sometimes things change in Hundreds of years.


More often then not, history repeats itself...


edit on 4-4-2014 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)


Welcome, Join the dog pile! Great contribution!



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:50 PM
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No, I don't think you have it quite right. It's not about a culture of peace, per se. A culture where you have an absolute despot ruling absolutely with an iron fist can be a "peaceful" place but certainly not one anyone actually wants to live in (unless you're the despot at the top).

What we need is to go back teaching basic respect for one another.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:55 PM
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So many gun control threads.

So many repeated posts about ignoring freedom, denying freedom, reducing freedom all for the false sense of security and safety.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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ketsuko
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No, I don't think you have it quite right. It's not about a culture of peace, per se. A culture where you have an absolute despot ruling absolutely with an iron fist can be a "peaceful" place but certainly not one anyone actually wants to live in (unless you're the despot at the top).

What we need is to go back teaching basic respect for one another.


'Modern' man is little different that when he began walking upright.

Once upon a time it was sticks, and stones, then he 'evolved' then started using spears, then he 'evolved' some more than started using bows,and arrows.

He 'evolved' yet again and was using swords until the one day he invented the gun.

Then he 'evolved' and created government.

Who does nothing but make superfluous laws thinking he can legislate his own behavior.
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posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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Listen spurgeonator, you have made your point, you don't like guns. Very well don't own one and that is good by me, as a matter of fact I find that an excellent idea. Just don't get in my house and tell me how I should live. I am no more interested in your supposed facts than you are in mine. So that's it live a good one. BTW, its far better to have one and not need it than to need one and not have it. Hope you never get schooled in that old saying.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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In order to truly compare America and any European nation, we'd first have to remove all constitutional rights, THEN compare.


Not entirely true, in the UK we have the Magna Carta which the united states constitution was based on.



posted on Apr, 4 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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America was born of violence and remains violent.

True story.




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