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So yes, KyoZero, what you said above is obviously very true and I bet that you knew that you would get some responses just like you predicted when you wrote it. Well done. I just want to make sure that those who responded that way know that they fell right into your trap and proved you absolutely correct. Kudos, my friend.
reply to post by researcher88
Why refer to female intellect......its same as Yours....... or r u idiot as well?, this inspires me to start, a thread.
Oh so your insinuating woman woman are stupid. Shame on you.
reply to post by WhiteAlice
Yet you are here claiming you want to "befriend" him. Friend zone.
Seems my comment was completely accurate.
I don't think I said anything that indicates that I think such a thing. I don't, and I am not.
Dude you may think that you are saying stuff that women want to hear but it's pure kitty repellant.
Did you get any with this philosophy lately?
As a man I get "ogled" and hit on by women all the time. Even when they are in a relationship already. Hell even when their boyfriend is right there. True story.
Thanks for sharing, was I hitting on you?
Whatever you say dear. No need to be foaming at the lips, is there?
So is naa na boo boo stick your head in doo doo.
reply to post by FancyName
I mean really there is no point whatsoever to continue to respond to you. So I suppose I will just quickly say...yes I am married...no I am not trying to look good to other, I truly feel this way...blah blah and a bunch of other stuff you won't believe anyway
have a lovely day
You know what really pisses me off? That I have to prove myself as someone who supports feminist ideals and equality because I am a male. Now I know at first glance this looks like a slight on women but it's more a slight on men. I have to constantly prove to others that I truly care about gender equality because centuries and scores of guys have ruined it for others by making all of our sex out to be rabid, sex-crazed and "deserving"
Any guy is going to get friend zoned by me as I am very happily engaged to the love of my life, who, btw, holds the same opinions on women and men as KyoZero does. He never claimed that he was doing it to "score with women". You were the one that said that. My offer was of friendship. Women and men can be friends, you know.
You're declaring his attitudes that people are to be measured in terms of equality based on their being people and not on their gender is somehow kitty repellent.
You're also implying that your own philosophy, which is borderline misogynist, is the way to go. That is common with men who think they are "God's gift". Toss in this:
And you're stating that women ogle you regardless of whether they are in the presence of their significant other or not. Are you sure about that? I will say one thing, getting ogled due to being physically attractive does not equate to being liked as a human being.
Can't count how many times some guy developed a crush on me because of how I looked only to turn tail because he found out I was wicked smart.
No, thank god. I'd much rather be seen as a repugnant human being in your eyes.
You have really no idea what goes through my head when I read the crap that you say, do you?
Correct. More utterances from you that are both stupid and juvenile.
I am sorry to hear that, but I have to say that that fact doesn't exactly make you an unbiased judge on male attention, nor is it the innocent male's fault that you feel threatened by such attention.
Through your narrow perspective, I could see how you could ignore KyoZero's actual statements as to his viewpoints and why he is here. It has nothing to do with what is actually motivating KyoZero--a sense of justice for what he sees as clear imbalances and disgust for those proponents of those viewpoints
If I see someone getting bullied online, I step in the line of fire in defense of the victim. I don't do it out of any sexual intent. I do it because it is right.
Not every action on this planet has to do with sex drives. Altruism without expected reward does exist. I know that must be a mind blowing concept for you but, breathe easy, I'm sure the moment will pass.
I'd wholeheartedly agree if it were just a couple of negative events. However, it has been the course of my life since reaching any sort of womanhood that leads me to feel the way I do--not a couple errant events. I was just 13 when I had a neighbor leaving me roses and hate letters in my mailbox and who'd prowl around my house. He used to sometimes ring my doorbell and bolt when my parents weren't home and I was so perturbed and scared that I took to answering the door while wielding a knife. You have no idea how vile and creepy men can behave. I've been unfortunate in that regard as I've been repeatedly been referred to as a light to all the psycho moths around me. It's a logical assessment due to more than 25 years of negative experience with a whole lot of creeps. When I once expressed frustration and declared myself paranoid, a close male friend of mine said that it wasn't paranoia when you know that the danger could exist. Now you could say that that makes me a biased judge of male attention. I'd agree if it weren't for a couple significant issues. First of all, I have the same guarded response to similar attention from females. Yep, that's right--I get nervous if a woman is paying too much attention to me and that has happened as well. My guardedness has little to do with gender. Secondly, whereas I prefer to not be noted at all in terms of appearance, it is not simple phobia of all men. I can make a distinction between a guy looking at me with interest and a total psychopath looking at me with interest. The first one just provokes irritation and the second provokes my PTSD/threat response. I know nuts when I see it these days. My irritation for the former is based on it being unwanted and having a history of having men who I thought were my friends break that and then dropping me like a hot rock as a friend. That's really not very complementary when you think about it as it basically equates to the value of my friendship being meaningless without the hope of eventual romance. How is that a good thing? That said, I do have plenty of male friends who value my friendship wholeheartedly. Love every single one of them for that and no, they're not trying to get in my pants as they tell me about their crushes and love interests all the time. They are friends. Biased judge? Not entirely. Jaded and cynical from experience but not entirely biased as I can actually discern between the different forms of male and female attention. Women can be pretty creepy, too, if they are aggressive and unstable seeming enough. If the attention is coming from someone who I am attracted to, then it's pure awesome as in the case of my fiance. Happiest day of my life when he reciprocated my feelings. That's pretty much a normal thing regardless of gender, is it not?
reply to post by greyer
Aw man, there are still women out there like me! You just have to hunt for them. I take care of my body and appearance and take care of my husband too. I have no ambitions. WE have ambitions.
Sometimes people in real life ask me how is it that my marriage is so great, that I have a nice home, etc. I tell them I take care in my appearance and my home. It's not just weight. Even if you were cursed with bad eyebrows, maintain them as best you can...bad nails, keep em clean and filed at the least, not much of wardrobe, clean it, accessorize differently...hair up, wear same suit next week, hair down. Don't have much for your home? Keep everything cleaned and maintained, even if it doesn't amount to much. My house isn't even big or particularly nice. It's small but clean and happy. People are still jealous, but don't listen to the answers I give.
Instead, they laugh. I say, ask your husband about his job when you see him at the end of the day. Do your hair up before he comes home, or if he is first, primp yourself in your car or immediately when you get home...they just laugh. But they still ask. I tell them answers, they don't get it. They don't see why it matters to communicate with their spouse. To maintain themselves, their living space, their relationship. They sit and wait for things to magically happen to them. IT TAKES WORK LADIES! You want to be treated like a lady, ACT. LIKE. A. LADY.
I sympathize with you OP. My bro is having a terrible time with women right now too. Apologies, I sort of went off on your thread here.
My irritation for the former is based on it being unwanted and having a history of having men who I thought were my friends break that and then dropping me like a hot rock as a friend. That's really not very complementary when you think about it as it basically equates to the value of my friendship being meaningless without the hope of eventual romance. How is that a good thing?
That said, I do have plenty of male friends who value my friendship wholeheartedly. Love every single one of them for that and no, they're not trying to get in my pants as they tell me about their crushes and love interests all the time. They are friends.
reply to post by WhiteAlice
When they finally realized they were in the friendzone forever it just wasn't productive anymore. How are they going to combine having to deal with maintaining a relationship with a woman that actually does give them sex, and the other woman who is in need of a meaningfull relation with a supposed platonic male friend.
You can still learn a thing or two about men. Ultimately, if you are not horrid looking, we are trying to get in your pants, on a subconscious level anyway.
Who knows for how long you have been sending men mixed messages.
Think about it.
Just a fyi, I was raised by a colonel in the USAF. Sure, I took ballet but he was also grooming me for the military, too.
reply to post by WhiteAlice
Jeez, I just wonder if your fiancee is as good at listening as I am.
I know more about you than the last girl I ******, and I've been nothing but a misogynistic jerk.
I bet he made you really mad at times, right?
Thanks for the info. We should meet.
reply to post by WhiteAlice
I avoid certain types of individuals.
Well that saves them from having to listen to your lifestory.