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Charles Koch: I'm Fighting to Restore a Free Society

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posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 07:04 AM
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Yes I hate specifically his very words ... not what they mean ... but because he is acting like a hypocrite and nothing a hypocrite says is of ANY WORTH AT ALL.

Now if the Dali Lama said exactly the same things ... then I would listen more deeply and would probably concur with them.

Mr Koch is not credible when it comes to social issues.

He IS a capitalist and that sorta makes him them enemy of socialism ... which is what he is talking about!

If he said "lets do this and we can make more money" .. then that would be congruent with him being a capitalist ... but this shiny 'socialist' stance of his are weasel words to make himself appear more acceptable to the public at large.

No matter what he says ... if it does not meet with his personality then its pure propaganda BS!

In this case ... SHOOT THE MESSENGER OK ... because he has a conflict of interest!




posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 07:11 AM
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So you would disagree with his message of dignity and respect simply because you dislike him.

Okay.

At least you're being honest with your bias.



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 07:22 AM
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I dislike him because he is a hypocrite in this specific case.

If one is a capitalist then that counts one out when discussing anything to do with any social issues BECAUSE that is a conflict of interest with ones capitalist world view, which is the view that money talks and BS walks!

His wonderful words don't make him any less of a hypocrite!

Either he is lying to himself ... or to us ... either way it is still a lie and his agenda is still clear!

He wants more money! It isn't even about control ... because if it was about controlling society then he would be a socialist!

If he is truly a capitalist ... then he should try to control the situation with his money ... not his words!



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 07:31 AM
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So you see a conflict between being a capitalist and dignity, personal freedom?

Personal responsibility coincides quite well with capitalism. It is up to the individual to succeed or not.

It isn't up to the state.

I've always been a proponent of personal responsibility, individualism. I like the concepts of dignity and respect.

I enjoy the responsibility of making it or not. It makes every success that much sweeter.

But to each his own, I suppose.



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 07:36 AM
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I personally don't confuse anarchy, aka personal responsibility and individualism and the concepts of dignity and respect, with capitalism!

Neither should you!



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 07:48 AM
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ZonedOut
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I personally don't confuse anarchy, aka personal responsibility and individualism and the concepts of dignity and respect, with capitalism!

Neither should you!





I'd rather embrace anarchy than tyranny.



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 07:56 AM
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Then please realize that capitalism is tyranny by its very nature of taking more than is required i.e. an unfair share, as it unbalances the social equations dramatically.

Capitalism is a parasite that lives off of the society!

Anarchy is purely self sufficient and self supporting and doesn't need a society to support it!

Anarchy doesn't need nor does it want any society!

However he is talking about social issues [hence socialism] and he is not a socialist at all and this reveals his underlying tyranny of lies.

Satan can quote scripture also ... they are still the rotten devil trying to trick us.

Unless he changes his political colors for good I feel I can safely discount what he is saying here as worthless hot air!



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 08:02 AM
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Embracing a controlling central authority is tyranny. Capitalism is making it or not on your own merits.

You may want to embrace the gentle tyranny of a caring government.

I would rather not.



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 08:18 AM
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I may live in and have to deal with the socialist hell hole of my nation but at my heart I am an anarchist and believe that everybody should survive completely on their own with no help from anybody at all.

The only tyranny should be one of self rule!



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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ZonedOut
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I may live in and have to deal with the socialist hell hole of my nation but at my heart I am an anarchist and believe that everybody should survive completely on their own with no help from anybody at all.

The only tyranny should be one of self rule!


That I can agree with.



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 11:19 AM
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Now if the Dali Lama said exactly the same things ... then I would listen more deeply and would probably concur with them.


Here you go, listen away.

Free Market Economics and Happiness (with the Dalai Lama)




His Holiness the Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso participated in a conference on how free enterprise, ethical leadership, human happiness, and a greater understanding of the mind can help make for a better life. He said that individual happiness leads to a happy world and that a community’s survival was dependent on one’s purpose in life being to take care of and have compassion for others. The first panel was on “Moral free enterprise: Economic perspectives in business and politics.” Moderator Arthur Brooks summed up the discussion by noting that a capitalist society worked best when free enterprise was predicated on moral living and the practice of compassion. The second panel, “Unlocking the mind and human happiness,” was co-hosted by the Mind and Life Institute. Moderator Arthur Zajonc noted that free enterprise works best when practiced in the spirit of compassion rather than division.



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posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 01:01 PM
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Now if the Dali Lama said exactly the same things ... then I would listen more deeply and would probably concur with them.

The Dalai Lama is an Illuminati agent and a fraud.

Anyone who goes by the title His "Holiness" and doesn't even believe in God has got some SERIOUS credibility issues.


"The Dalai Lama himself was on the CIA’s payroll..." www.infowars.com...


Charles Koch and the Dali lama actually have some amazing similarities.

I do NOT see this as a coincidence.


The Dalai Lama is just another regime change tool used and funded by the Luciferian New World Order Puppet Masters to destabilize nations and destroy many sincere people who want to get closer to their higher purpose and find meaning of their existence in this world.

The DALAI LAMA is a Luciferian Disciple

Mr. Tenzin Gyatsu, whilst claiming to be a spiritual leader, a holy man, and a man of peace, is actually on the payroll of the C.I.A. , and received $180,000 a year, and including at least $500,000 in subsidies for a couple thousand ‘Tibetan freedom fighters”. It is unclear if he and his army are still being paid, but its hard to imagine its not, looking at whats happening in China, and his well financed world campaigns. zenshaman.com...

One of the most powerful weapons used by the Satanists in their plot to create a totalitarian world government is the use of certain religious sects such as Moonies, the Dalai Lama’s network, Falun Gong and others. The inclusion of the Dalai Lama in the network of Satanists may come as a surprise to many but the evidence speaks for itself.

The Satanist link to intelligence operations disguised as religious sects



posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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The Dalai Lama is an Illuminati agent and a fraud.


Yes, BUT he is a socialist and not a capitalist and his words on socialism carry weight where as Mr Capitalist Koch's words don't!

I didn't hold him up as a shining light ... just as a counter point!

Anybody who follows the Dali Lama has sold out their authority to others!

Become an Anarchist Citizen and choose self rule ok!




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