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Charles Koch: I'm Fighting to Restore a Free Society

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posted on Apr, 2 2014 @ 11:37 PM
reply to post by SaturnFX

Looks like the Koch Brothers struck a few nerves !!

Soros is a nerve shatterer too.

* Multi-billionaire funder of leftwing causes and groups

* Founder of the Open Society Institute

* The prime mover behind the Democratic "Shadow Party" network


He is an interesting psychopath psycho-maniac for sure !!

posted on Apr, 2 2014 @ 11:48 PM

Meet Charles G. Koch !!

Meet the REAL Charles G. Koch...

In short, the Koch brothers are sociopaths who, having inherited vast wealth from daddy, have never had to toil in uncertainty, have never had to look in a mirror. Their general political scheme is to turn citizens against citizens, white against blacks, Christians against non Christians, heterosexuals against gays, class against class, etc-- to control them.

Who exactly are the koch brothers?

According to researcher Yasha Levine, part of this growth was fueled by corruption: "William Koch, the third brother who had a falling-out with Charles and David back in the '80s over Charles' sociopathic management style, appeared on "60 Minutes" in November 2000 to tell the world that Koch Industries was a criminal enterprise: "It was - was my family company. I was out of it," he says. "But that's what appalled me so much... I did not want my family, my legacy, my father's legacy to be based upon organized crime."

"Charles Koch's racket was very simple," explained William. "With its extensive oil pipe network, Koch Industries' role as an oil middleman--it buys crude from someone's well and sells it to a refinery--makes it easy to steal millions of dollars worth of oil by skimming just a little off the top of each transaction, or what they call "cheating measurements" in the oil trade. According to William, wells located on federal and Native American lands were the prime targets of the Koch scam."

It is estimated they stole $230 million.

Illuminati Endgame

posted on Apr, 2 2014 @ 11:54 PM

reply to post by theantediluvian


I don't suppose you can show all the details to back up the claims?

It might help.

Maybe Koch is right about the "argument" tactics?


Let's start with what their brother once said of Koch Industries:

Koch says that Koch Industries engaged in "(o)rganized crime. And management driven from the top down."

"It was – was my family company. I was out of it," he says. "But that’s what appalled me so much... I did not want my family, my legacy, my father’s legacy to be based upon organized crime."


Ouachita River (source)

The EPA only steps in when there is overwhelming evidence that the state has failed in its oversight responsibilities. One nasty loophole around the water quality minimum standards in the Clean Water Act is for a state to declare a body of water as having no aquatic life or human consumption use. The Arkansas Department of Environmental Quality (ADEQ) has used this loophole to allow Georgia-Pacific to turn Coffee Creek and Mossy Lake into a sludge disposal system. Unfortunately, the ADEQ also allows 45 million gallons of heavily polluted effluent from Coffee Creek to be discharged into the Ouachita River.

Crosset Plant (source)

Among the chemicals that the plant emits to the air and water are known carcinogens such as formaldehyde and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons as well as probable carcinogens including acetaldehyde and lead. In fact, the Crossett plant is the 39th-biggest air emitter of formaldehyde in the U.S., while a USA Today study ranked Crossett in the top percentile of communities for schoolchildren's exposure to cancer-causing chemicals.

The Brave New Films video documents how residents of Penn Road in West Crossett, an African-American community close to the plant, are suffering from a host of respiratory problems and cancers that they link to pollution from the facility.

On the topic of formaldehyde, they fund groups to downplay it's risk (source)

Formaldehyde is classified as a “Group 1 Carcinogen” which is defined as an agent that “is definitely carcinogenic to humans” by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), and “a complete carcinogen” in the words of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). The National Toxicology Program also recently revised its characterization of formaldehyde to that of “known human carcinogen.”

But this determination by top scientists and researchers has not stopped Formaldehyde Council Inc. from trying to convince lawmakers on Capitol Hill that the links between Formaldehyde and cancer are highly overstated. Executive Director of the Formaldehyde Council, Betsy Natz recently wrote a letter to the President’s Panel on Cancer [pdf] arguing that:
The Council’s operating budget in 2008 was $2.7 million and it reported $2 million in “membership dues and assessments.”

David Koch’s company, Georgia-Pacific, one of the largest manufacturers of Formaldehyde in the United States, is listed on the Formaldehyde Council’s website as a “member” since at least 2004.

In IRS filings for 2008, Richard Urschel, the President of Georgia-Pacific’s chemical division is listed as the Chair of the Formaldehyde Council. In 2006, Urschel served as the Council’s Vice-Chair. According to the Council’s stated by-laws only “Tier 1” members can have a place on the Board of Directors, and in order to become a Tier 1 member a company must pay $200,000 in annual dues to the Council.

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:13 AM

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posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:17 AM
In much the same way they fund groups to downplay the risk and impact of their formaldehyde pollution, they fund global warming denial (source)

Our March 2010 report documented well over $48 million
dollars that David Koch and his brother Charles have quietly
funneled to front groups that actively deny global warming
science or work to delay policies and regulations aimed at
solving the crisis. Over half of that money has been donated
since 2005, as climate change policy rose in prominence.

Here's some groups they founded/co-founded/fund

Americans For Prosperity (source)

Americans for Prosperity (AFP) is a group fronting special interests founded in 2004 by oil billionaire David Koch and Richard Fink (a member of the board of directors of Koch Industries). AFP has been accused of funding astroturf operations but also has been fueling the "Tea Party" efforts.

Citizens for a Sound Economy / FreedomWorks (source)

Citizens for a Sound Economy was co-founded by David Koch in the 1980s.[29] According to the Center for Public Integrity, the Koch Brothers donated a total amount of $7.9 million between 1986 and 1993.[3] In 1990, the brothers created the spinoff group Citizens for the Environment.[3] In 2004, Citizens for a Sound Economy was renamed FreedomWorks, while its affiliated Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation became Americans for Prosperity (AFP). Since then the Koch brothers have given more than one million dollars to AFP.[3][29][38]

Cato Institute (source)

The Cato Institute is an American libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded as the Charles Koch Foundation in 1974 by Ed Crane, Murray Rothbard, and Charles Koch. Following the 2011 death of William Niskanen, the chairman of the Cato Institute, Charles and David Koch reportedly made an effort to procure the shares of that institute held by Niskanen’s widow, "arguing that they were not hers to hold".[41] Their efforts were criticized by some at the institute, including the institute's president Ed Crane, who in an email to staff stated that the Kochs were "in the process of trying to take over the Cato Institute and, in my opinion, reduce it to a partisan adjunct to Americans for Prosperity, the activist GOP group they control." The brothers denied any wrongdoing.[42] In June 2012, Cato and the brothers reached an agreement. Crane stepped down and was replaced by John A. Allison IV; the Kochs withdrew two lawsuits.[43]

Freedom Partners (source)

An organization with ties to the Koch Brothers,[44] Freedom Partners, gave grants worth a total of $236 million to conservative organizations, including Tea Party groups like the Tea Party Patriots and organizations which opposed The Affordable Care Act prior to the 2012 election. A majority of Freedom Partners board of directors is made up of long-time employees of the Koch brothers,[45][46][47] and has been called "the Koch brothers' secret bank" for its function as a vehicle to provide large donations to external organizations that advance causes supported by the Kochs.[48]

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:18 AM

The Heritage Foundation (source)

According to Media Transparency, the Heritage Foundation received $61,944,537 in foundation grants from organizations such as: the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, the Scaife Foundations, the John M. Olin Foundation, Inc., Castle Rock Foundation, JM Foundation, Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation, the Richard and Helen DeVos Foundation, and the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation. - See more at:

American Legislative Exchange Council (source)

In case you don't know what this one is, they fund closed door meetings between corporations and state legislators where they can plan favorable legislation (so called "model bills") for the corporations.

No, there's more. In 2009, Koch corporate and foundation gifts likely amounted to about three times more income for ALEC than the dues from all of its legislative members combined. Research from CMD and GreenPeace documents that the Koch foundations have given ALEC at least $600,000 in the past decade or so, and Koch Industries has donated an untold amount. The Kochs also bailed out ALEC with a loan of nearly half a million dollars in the late 1990s. Koch Industries has also chaired ALEC's corporate board and has had a seat on its board for over a decade

Koch Industries operates above the law, because laws are for peasants. (source)

A Bloomberg Markets investigation has found that Koch Industries -- in addition to being involved in improper payments to win business in Africa, India and the Middle East -- has sold millions of dollars of petrochemical equipment to Iran, a country the U.S. identifies as a sponsor of global terrorism.

The ‘Koch Method’

Internal company documents show that the company made those sales through foreign subsidiaries, thwarting a U.S. trade ban. Koch Industries units have also rigged prices with competitors, lied to regulators and repeatedly run afoul of environmental regulations, resulting in five criminal convictions since 1999 in the U.S. and Canada.

and of course there is the John Birch Society, of which their father Fred was a founding member but I'm sure you know all about them? ( source)

The first example of the JBS campaign to oppose the Civil Rights Movement is an advertisement in the October 31, 1965 issue of the Palm Beach Post titled, “The John Birch Society Asks: What’s Wrong With Civil Rights?”

The half-page advertisement begins with the statement that nothing is wrong with civil rights, just with the Civil Rights Movement. According to the JBS, it constituted a communist plot to build a “Negro Soviet Republic” in the United States. The “average American Negro,” according to the JBS in 1965, “has complete freedom of religion, freedom of movement, and freedom to run his own life as he pleases.” Moreover, “The pursuit of happiness enjoyed by the average American Negro has been far superior to that of any race or any people among at least ninety percent of the earth’s population.”

Do you need more?
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posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:25 AM
reply to post by theantediluvian

Is it just me or is everyone cool with that list?

And if there are any actionable offenses discovered, we have plenty of eager prosecutors. I imagine he is under a microscope.
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posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:36 AM



Corporate masters.

Now we have the US government that enslaves us to draconian rule, feeds us, gives us allowance, houses us.

Yet the Koch brothers are the "corporate masters".

The US government doesn't feed me, give me a house or an allowance. I'm sure the Koch brothers have a job for you, they own like eight mega mansions between them, I'm sure they could use a few more house slaves.. I mean employees.

Don't pay your taxes and then come back and brag about how free your are!

Bottom line, why bash the Koch's and ignore George Soros?

OH! I get it! It shows you buy into the partisanship brainwashing!

edit on 2-4-2014 by seeker1963 because: (no reason given)

Oh I'm sorry, was this a topic about George Soros? F him too.

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:37 AM
reply to post by theantediluvian

Would it even be possible for you to conduct a intelligent discussion on the article posted by the OP or do the Koch brothers make you too angry for that to happen?

You seem to be almost irrationally angry at these people.
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posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:38 AM

The fact you tried to defend George Soros as a good guy and throw the "SHILL" word out in the process, makes me want to tell you to take a good hard look in a mirror!

I don't defend Soros, he has good and bad merits...I am simply pointing out the silliness of how they can point at Soros as some evil jerkface because of his money and influence, then point at someone 10 times richer with far more damage on their record and give him a thumbs up.

Money in politics is a corruptor, I agree. I think all funding should be fully transparent, corporate money should not be allowed in campaigns, hell, put a cap limit of 10m per candidate and ban any outside advertising all together would be great.

But this thread is a joke (same with any thread that would be suggesting Soros is good for our political methods).

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:40 AM
reply to post by xuenchen

What say then we load the Koch brothers and soros on a boat and send them to some remote island..

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:53 AM

reply to post by theantediluvian

Would it even be possible for you to conduct a intelligent discussion on the article posted by the OP or do the Koch brothers make you too angry for that to happen?

You seem to be almost irrationally angry at these people. Just curious.

What would you consider an "intelligent discussion" about Charles Koch? One that doesn't address the facts? I think you're irrationally apathetic about wealthy people hijacking the American political system to suit their needs and in particular how their ability to use money to legally exert undue influence has exploded since the Citizens United verdict.

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 12:57 AM

reply to post by xuenchen

What say then we load the Koch brothers and soros on a boat and send them to some remote island..

Fine with me !!

Maybe they'd dislike being on the same island though.

But remember to deny internet access !!

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 01:33 AM

Can we please tone the aggression down a notch and also focus on the actual topic at hand.

Thank you.

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 02:16 AM

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posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 06:35 AM
Yup free like
Pre- labor free. having your wage slaves no days off and your children relieve you in the mines or sweat shop free.
Crony capitalism free,pay off the government to stymie the competition example the Tesla car company
Trouble for Tesla as NJ bans direct to auto sales

The New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission today banned direct to dealer auto sales, joining Texas and Arizona in barring the ability of automobile manufacturers to sell directly to consumers.
Free to pollute,by not having any by making sure your politician in pocket slashed funding for regulators resulting in toxic spills and explosions in Texas,free for companies like Monsanto to treat farmers like serfs on their own land or walk free from penalties if a product they developed caused public harm.
The kind of free to keep legalizing bribery to politicians like the outrageous supreme court ruling that took place today.
Most of all THE FREE TO ABUSE U!!..

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posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 06:48 AM
reply to post by xuenchen

Why does he care about society at all?

Is he a socialist?

If not then this is just a scam to make himself more money!

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 06:49 AM

Unfortunately, the fundamental concepts of dignity, respect, equality before the law and personal freedom are under attack by the nation's own government. That's why, if we want to restore a free society and create greater well-being and opportunity for all Americans, we have no choice but to fight for those principles. I have been doing so for more than 50 years, primarily through educational efforts. It was only in the past decade that I realized the need to also engage in the political process.

From the OP's source.

I know many here are attacking the man, but who here disagrees with what he is saying?

What is so wrong with dignity, respect, equality, personal freedom?

Are these the issues you all are attacking?

Or is it just a hate-fest on the man.

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 06:53 AM
reply to post by beezzer

The only thought driving his attitude is how can he make more money at the expense of the public!

If that is not his thought process then he is not a capitalist!

posted on Apr, 3 2014 @ 06:56 AM

reply to post by beezzer

The only thought driving his attitude is how can he make more money at the expense of the public!

If that is not his thought process then he is not a capitalist!

Do you agree or disagree with the concepts of dignity, personal freedom, respect?

I know you hate him because of what he is thinking (I don't know how to read minds so I'm at a loss here) but do you hate what he wrote?

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