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Originally posted by Bondi
They are all the same, claiming the same stuff, the questions are always answered, but people make more conspiracy stating that people are lying or are not of a high enough rank. It's a spiral, people don't like to be wrong, I know I don't, but some people take it a little too far
I have heard that there comes a time once you've been a Mason for long enough
that if it's not "secret" then I must REALLY suck at research. Or maybe it's just the immense amount of disinformation about it all,
Originally posted by an3rkist
Okay, I'm still trying to understand and find out for myself as much about the Masons as I can, so I can make an informed opinion on whether I would consider them "conspiratorial" or whatever.
Originally posted by an3rkist
I'm starting to think that you're statement about it being a spiral is more right than I could ever understand. It's starting to feel like no matter how much I think I know, there's always something being hidden from me, (or missed), that debunks or verifies it all. I'm just doing my best to deny ignorance and find out everything I can. I almost had thoughts of giving up on this subject, but then the hardcore conspiracy theorist in me kicked in and I thought, "What if he is some guy sent by the conspirators to discourage me?" Of course, I doubt you are, Bondi, but I question everything these days. I think you can understand that. I guess I'm just going to have to follow this spiral until it drops me somewhere in the vicinity of the truth. Or my deathbed, whichever comes first.
Originally posted by 00PS
They are a relic of the past...have you noticed that they like to donate many statues of men who were freemasons in the past to different locations throughout the usa...reminding them of history...because they are just a historical thing without much influence anymore....when they say NWO it doesn't really include them..its a New World Order
Originally posted by an3rkist
I also have heard the term "degree" used in reference to certain Masons, referring to their...rank I guess. Here's my question, and although it's directed toward any Masons who may read this, I'm interested in non-Masons thoughts also: Have you Masons ever considered that perhaps there are degrees ABOVE that which you know about, that are, in fact, perpetrators of NWO plans or whatnot? Perhaps the members of the degrees above you know more than they tell you?
I have heard that there comes a time once you've been a Mason for long enough where you're faced with some kind of a test, where there's not really a right or wrong answer. But if you choose one, you advance to the "inner loop", and the other choice you advance to the "outer loop". (I'm sure these aren't the official names for these groups.) One of the loops is for "normal" Masons, the other is for those who are privied to information that all these conspiracy theorists think EVERY Mason knows about. Maybe the outer loop is for those of you who don't know what's going on, and the inner loop is for the Masons that are pulling the strings and controlling the world from the shadows. I mean, these are just ideas, but have any of you Masons ever considered this?
Originally posted by chief_counsellor
What are differences between the Shriners, the 33rd Degree of the Scottish Rite, and Order of Knights Templar of the York Rite?
The "highest" degree in Scottish rite is the 33rd, and "highest" in York Rite are Knights Templar. So where do Shriners fit in here?
What do you gain by being at this degree level in Freemasonry?
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I am personally 100% confident that I know every degree worked in every Constitution in which I have travelled.