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Originally posted by khruschev
Any other articles?
i guess you did not read the articles i quoted above, some of them from Russian citizens...
You know...they say that Communism "on paper" also looked like a pretty good form of government....
You mentioned article 29 of Constitution of Russian Federation.
Let's see what it says.
Originally posted by raven2012
What the Constitution of Russian Federation says and what is actually happening are 2 different things.
Originally posted by khruschev
It's more like western propaganda against the East, but whatever. It is you who lie to people in the East about all the freedoms, but you can't even elect the president without a coup d'etat.
What country are you from? Cuba? Yes, everyoen wants to leave and go to USA because of their excellent propaganda telling them how life is great in USA, but the truth is the life is much better in Communism, and many people want ot go back, but they can't, it is too late.
Russia is now a democratic state, you might say partially or whatever, but I don't really care about what you think. The Constitution says it all.
Those same defectors are traitors. And traitors don't choose those who they betray. One day they defect from USSR to USA, another they defect from USA to Japan, and so on and on and on... They are born like that and I have apsolutely no respect for them! If and only if a US high ranking officer defected to Russia, and would tell me everything he knows, and at the same time another guy would be saying similar things in the US I would trust him more that the defector. Of course the defectors' words must be taken into account but come on, you can't base your opinion on that, since just like the man is everything he says are lies.
Nagorno-Karabag: A Case Study in "Perestroika"
by Dennis R. Papazian, Ph.D.
Dr. Dennis R. Papazian is a professor of Soviet history, the founder/director of the Armenian Research Center at The University of Michigan, Dearborn, and a member of the faculty of the Center for Russian and East European Studies at The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. This paper is a preliminary draft/study written for oral delivery at the annual conference of the AAASS in Washington, DC, Friday, October 19, 1990.
More recently, Anatoliy Golitsyn, a Soviet defector of high status, has suggested that the Soviet Union is capable of disinformation on such a massive scale that even the Borkenau system is no longer viable. In a book first published in 1984, and of necessity written before then, Golitsyn argues that the leadership of the whole Communist bloc came to an agreement in 1958 in which it established a long range program, a master plan, which it would realize through a large scale deception of the West, a monumental scam.
Golitsyn maintains that the goals of the master plan were to provide a more profound political stabilization of individual communist regimes by developing wider mass support, the rectification of economic weakness of the bloc by increased international trade and the acquisition of credits and high technology from the West, the creation of a substructure for an eventual world federation of communist states, political isolation of the US from its allies, developing influence among socialists in Western Europe and Japan, the dissolution of NATO, and an alignment between the Soviet Union and a neutral, preferably socialist, Western Europe; concerted action with nationalist leaders in the Third World to eliminate Western influence as a preliminary to absorbing them in a communist federation, shifting the balance of power in favor of the Communist world, and the ideological disarmament of the West to create favorable conditions for convergence of East and West on communist terms.
The final phase of the master plan, according to Golitsyn, is a disinformation and deception campaign of such magnitude that it would be "beyond the imagination of Marx, or the practical reach of Lenin, and unthinkable to Stalin. Among such previously unthinkable stratagems are the introduction of false liberalization in Eastern Europe and, probably, the Soviet Union, and the exhibition of spurious independence on the part of the regimes in Romania, Czechoslovakia, and Poland."
Golitsyn predicted the "breakup" of the communist bloc in Eastern Europe as a technique to be used by the Soviet government to entice Europe to move more towards socialism and to align itself eventually with the USSR against the United States. The Third World would then join communist Russia and socialist Western Europe against the US and its allies. Then there would be a joint drive by the Soviet bloc and a socialist Europe to push the US out of Europe and into nuclear disarmament. A powerful world federation of communist states would emerge and the US would be induced to "converge" on communist terms.
Originally posted by khruschev
You say that US media has more freedom than the Russian one, well let me tell you one thing. The Russian Constitution says that media has freedom of informing people. If Putin or anyone else tries to prevent them from doing so, that person, can get arrested and prosecuted for violation of the Constitution. The people who defected from Soviet Union were not the real representation of the truth about life in USSR.
No, I am not expecting Fidel Castro do be telling Cuban citizens to leave Cuba and go to USA, and telling them how good the life is in USA. I am saying that West infiltrates specially trained people who melt with the rest of the society and spread propaganda among the people. The East has been doing the same things. But West is still doing it.
You still didn't answer my question. Where are you from originally?
And you mentioned people not willing to go back to USSR, and Russia after leaving to the USA. Well, it isn't because they don't want communism, it is because the will have a trial for treason.