2016 POTUS: Why the establishment GOP mega donor class wants Jeb Bush and to crush Rand Paul.

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posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 09:32 PM
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This past weekend, some of the GOP's biggest donors showed up at Casino Magnante Sheldon Adelson's private jet hanger for a GOP fundraiser and Jeb Bush (Brother of W. Bush and Son of H.W. Bush) was the talk of the town. I will be posting 3 articles on why the GOP establishment is pushing mega donors to back "good ol' boy" candidates that will continue the W Bush era American foreign policy of war and more war. Why that hurts but also helps populist liberty candidate Rand Paul.

As you'll see all three articles, which have gotten references and quotes from anonymous GOP donors, bundlers, and operatives, revolve around the same general theme: Rand Paul could become the GOP nominee and we must stop him and it is all because of foreign policy. Now, we all know the "Paul" name is synonymous with decreasing the size of the war machine and that obviously the GOP establishment isn't happy whenever the "Empire Money Tree" is shaken.

Why is this good for Rand Paul? Rand has been busy building a national grassroots network and his own donor base with conservatives and libertarians (especially new GOP donors from the tech industry who are worried about the government taking too much control of internet). He has been polling in the "top tier" nationally and in key primary states and most recently, nationally #1. This scares the bejeebus out of the GOP establishment and all of the 2016 candidates who are not Rand Paul are all taking shots at his foreign policy in hopes of dwindling his support with the GOP base, but it doesn't seem to be working.

Rand Paul's 50 state network for 2016
Rand Paul leading nationally in latest WPA survey
Rand Paul tops GOP field in CNN/ORC Survey

GOP donors (supposedly) working to draft Jeb Bush for 2016.



On the other hand, Paul's libertarian views on matters like surveillance by the National Security Agency and his perceived softness on foreign policy has also raised red flags in the GOP establishment. Paul's victories in straw polls at the Conservative Political Action Conference and the Northeast Republican Leadership Conference earlier this month may also have been a factor in the renewed push for a Bush candidacy.

A group of top Republican donors have reportedly begun an intense effort to draft former Florida governor Jeb Bush into the race for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016.

A Washington Post report quotes one major donor as saying that the "vast majority" of the top 100 givers to 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney would back Bush in a nomination fight.



GOP Hawks prepare for war - Against Rand Paul



According to several donors at the Republican Jewish Coalition conference held in Las Vegas last weekend, the billionaire casino magnate Sheldon Adelson is prepared to fund a campaign against Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) if he picks up increased support during his widely anticipated presidential run in 2016.

According to TIME, one unnamed former Mitt Romney bundler said it was "scary" that Paul could win the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary.


GOP Hawks worry Rand has too much Ron




John Bolton, the former U.S. ambassador to the U.N., bemoaned “a rising tide of neoisolationism within the Republican Party,” and blasted those, like Paul, who oppose throwing the book at admitted NSA leaker Edward Snowden, as “unfit to serve.”




On the margins of the conference, where attendees heard from four potential 2016 candidates who advocated for a strong American foreign policy and support for Israel, five donors huddled with a reporter pledged to reach into their deep pockets to ensure Paul doesn’t win the GOP nomination.

“The best thing that could happen is Ted Cruz and Rand Paul run and steal each others’ support,” said one of the donors, “but if not, we’ll be ready to take Paul down.”


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posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 09:44 PM
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eLPresidente
Why is this good for Rand Paul? Rand has been busy building a national grassroots network and his own donor base with conservatives and libertarians (especially new GOP donors from the tech industry who are worried about the government taking too much control of internet). He has been polling in the "top tier" nationally and in key primary states and most recently, nationally #1. This scares the bejeebus out of the GOP establishment and all of the 2016 candidates who are not Rand Paul are all taking shots at his foreign policy in hopes of dwindling his support with the GOP base, but it doesn't seem to be working.


Sorry but Paul the Plagiarist will not get anywhere near the nomination.

Adelson's GOP Beauty Contest will choose the nominee and the "GOP base" will follow along like good little lemmings.



posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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I agree it's going to be Bush unless someone comes along that's more electable. I don't see it now though. Christie before that controversy was a good bet, but not now.



posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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Very predictable action and I am sure Ron Paul has a strategy in re-action...hopefully something to blackmail "Bushes" like 911 complicity, dead banker's, Nazi connection
Eta: The Republican Jewish Coalition is funding a Nazi?
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posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 09:49 PM
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The Democrats hope it's Bush because then everyone stays home and Hilary gets elected. I refuse to see why you all are so enamored of dynasties though. Haven't you all had enough of Bush/Clinton? Or do you secretly long to be the good little serfs you are told you are.



posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 09:51 PM
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ketsuko
The Democrats hope it's Bush because then everyone stays home and Hilary gets elected. I refuse to see why you all are so enamored of dynasties though. Haven't you all had enough of Bush/Clinton? Or do you secretly long to be the good little serfs you are told you are.


We don't want either is the hard truth but what choice do we get here? I don't think Bush is more electable than anyone else so he'll be rammed down our throats. Same with Hillary.



posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 10:22 PM
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Adelson will he happy with any of the war mongering, neocon hawks (Republican or Democrat): Bush, Christie, Hillary etc.

I agree that Rand's biggest challenge will be from his own Party.

If he can clear that hurdle, beating a turd like Hillary wont be a problem.




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posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 10:46 PM
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Jeb Bush? Seriously?

What's the matter, couldn't they arrange a pardon for Charles Manson?



posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 11:12 PM
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When was the last time a Republican won the presidency without either a Bush or a Nixon on the ticket?

The answer: 1928 (Herbert Hoover).



posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 11:18 PM
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You are choosing between two show ponies vetted together by the same financial interests (Goldman Sachs, anyone?) to ensure that no matter which way the eaters "vote," the money "wins."

I'd be getting mad as hell about fake corporate democracy rather than playing cheerleader for the red or blue team, gratis. But that's just me I guess.



posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 11:28 PM
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BritofTexas

eLPresidente
Why is this good for Rand Paul? Rand has been busy building a national grassroots network and his own donor base with conservatives and libertarians (especially new GOP donors from the tech industry who are worried about the government taking too much control of internet). He has been polling in the "top tier" nationally and in key primary states and most recently, nationally #1. This scares the bejeebus out of the GOP establishment and all of the 2016 candidates who are not Rand Paul are all taking shots at his foreign policy in hopes of dwindling his support with the GOP base, but it doesn't seem to be working.


Sorry but Paul the Plagiarist will not get anywhere near the nomination.

Adelson's GOP Beauty Contest will choose the nominee and the "GOP base" will follow along like good little lemmings.


The whole point of the thead and article(s) just went completely over your head.

The articles quote political operatives, strategists and donors showing their fear for Rand Paul winning the nomination, thus needing to put so much money behind other candidates to prevent him from the nomination.

And what does plagiarism have to do with why the GOP establishment wants to crush him? Or did you just add that in because you were trying to be cute?
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posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 11:38 PM
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0zzymand0s
reply to post by amazing
 


You are choosing between two show ponies vetted together by the same financial interests (Goldman Sachs, anyone?) to ensure that no matter which way the eaters "vote," the money "wins."

I'd be getting mad as hell about fake corporate democracy rather than playing cheerleader for the red or blue team, gratis. But that's just me I guess.


I am but what's the choice? I could vote Green or libertarian or some good independent candidate but I don't know how much good that does. Sure it helps them get on the ballots for the next election and sends a small message. but not much of one. So then if the candidates are the same and I see Bush and Clinton as the same then maybe it's Hillary due to first female pres and feminism and women's rights. That will get a big boost...and it helps keep the wacko evangelicals in line. What does the vote for Jeb Bush get me. Does Paul go independent. That's a possible win. I think he goes in the primary and they let Bush beat him. That's my take. It's really a no win until we get a better system in place.



posted on Apr, 1 2014 @ 12:04 AM
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amazing

0zzymand0s
reply to post by amazing
 


You are choosing between two show ponies vetted together by the same financial interests (Goldman Sachs, anyone?) to ensure that no matter which way the eaters "vote," the money "wins."

I'd be getting mad as hell about fake corporate democracy rather than playing cheerleader for the red or blue team, gratis. But that's just me I guess.


I am but what's the choice? I could vote Green or libertarian or some good independent candidate but I don't know how much good that does. Sure it helps them get on the ballots for the next election and sends a small message. but not much of one. So then if the candidates are the same and I see Bush and Clinton as the same then maybe it's Hillary due to first female pres and feminism and women's rights. That will get a big boost...and it helps keep the wacko evangelicals in line. What does the vote for Jeb Bush get me. Does Paul go independent. That's a possible win. I think he goes in the primary and they let Bush beat him. That's my take. It's really a no win until we get a better system in place.


Unfortunately the sad reality is that the independent candidate gets destroyed because he/she can't gain access to 50 state ballots and don't poll high enough for the national debates. Rand Paul has a chance with the GOP, we already have the GOP establishment saying "if we don't do something, Rand Paul will win Iowa and New Hampshire". If Rand wins the first two states (where his father came in a close third and a less than close second), the nomination could very well be his. At that point you'd get to choose between Rand Paul and Hillary, Biden, or Elizabeth Warren.



posted on Apr, 1 2014 @ 12:11 AM
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I'd be getting mad as hell about fake corporate democracy rather than playing cheerleader for the red or blue team, gratis.



posted on Apr, 1 2014 @ 02:49 AM
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Ouch Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton for the next president in the USA, cant wait to see the election threads.

Going to be fun, god almighty, ats mods are going to be working overtime.
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posted on Apr, 1 2014 @ 04:24 AM
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With the GOP still in a mess whomever wants that nomination is going to have to swing far right and that is going to be completely unexceptable to the general population. The GOP needs a more centerest candidate but, that person will never get through a GOP primary. Meanwhile the DNC is becoming the centerist party and will be able to keep the White House until the GOP manages to regain control of the party.



posted on Apr, 1 2014 @ 04:51 AM
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If the DNC is now centrist this country is in for boatload of hurt.
Don't worry about Rand, they'll just steal his delegates like they did his father.



posted on Apr, 1 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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MrSpad
With the GOP still in a mess whomever wants that nomination is going to have to swing far right and that is going to be completely unexceptable to the general population. The GOP needs a more centerest candidate but, that person will never get through a GOP primary. Meanwhile the DNC is becoming the centerist party and will be able to keep the White House until the GOP manages to regain control of the party.


Agreed, that's why I thought Christie would have been a great candidate. I can't go through a couple of years of Hillary/Bush propaganda and hatred being spewed on every blog, board and political radio and tv show. That's going to finally push me to get rid of cable.



posted on Apr, 1 2014 @ 01:28 PM
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Well now you know just how sinister this all is.....

DICK CHENEY was at the private donor function and he went after Rand Paul too.




Cheney's remarks were closed to the press, but audio of the speech obtained by Mother Jones was posted online Tuesday.

"That we have created in the National Security Agency this monster bureaucracy that's reading everybody's mail, listening to everybody's phone calls, infringing upon our civil liberties and civil rights — hogwash," Cheney said at the March 29 event. "It probably would've allowed us to stop 9/11.

...

Cheney also commented on the crop of possible 2016 candidates, including Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul.

"One of the things that concerns me first about the campaign, that I'm worried about, is what I sense to be an increasing strain of isolationism, if I can put it in those terms, in our own party," Cheney said. "It's not taking over, by any means, but there is without question a body of thought now that's supported by many Republicans and some candidates that the United States can afford to turn its back on [the Middle East].

"The United States' position in [the Middle East] is worse than at any time in my lifetime," Cheney said. "It's reached the point where Israel and Egypt, [the United Arab] Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Jordan are closer to one another — imagine that — than any of them is to us. ... Nobody who's been our friend in the past any longer has any sense of trust in we'll keep our commitments, that we'll be there in a crisis when they need us. On the other hand, none of our adversaries need fear us."
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amazing

MrSpad
With the GOP still in a mess whomever wants that nomination is going to have to swing far right and that is going to be completely unexceptable to the general population. The GOP needs a more centerest candidate but, that person will never get through a GOP primary. Meanwhile the DNC is becoming the centerist party and will be able to keep the White House until the GOP manages to regain control of the party.


Agreed, that's why I thought Christie would have been a great candidate. I can't go through a couple of years of Hillary/Bush propaganda and hatred being spewed on every blog, board and political radio and tv show. That's going to finally push me to get rid of cable.


I hope you know that the establishment wanted Christie before the bridgegate scandal, they started looking to Jeb Bush after Christie's brand was damaged.
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