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Dear Maggie Fox,
Oh Maggie. I respect you, don't get me wrong. But you buggered this one royally by saying, "WHO has sent more than 50 people… (and) …non-profit groups such as Medecins sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders) are helping, also."
Pardon?! Excuse me!?! Are you effing kidding!?!!!
Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) was in Guinea busting their butts long before the World Health Organization even bothered to sniff and say, "This outbreak is not big enough to notice." You know, back when MSF was begging for help, saying the geographic spread was making the Ebola impossible to contain. Back on March 23 when MSF declared an epidemic and bumped up their Emergency Response team from the 24 people already there - but the WHO kept blowing them off saying, "Problem? What problem?" Back then. Remember? .....
Given that WHO policies determine other infectious diseases of poverty to be far more important than the occasional Ebola outbreak
* Are you just assuming that this Ebola strain has not mutated significantly, or do you know for certain?
* Why and how did the Zaire Ebola strain travel thousands of kilometres to Guinea?
* Obviously, this Zaire Ebola strain is/has changed - can you please characterize those changes without lying through your teeth?
To me the only question is why it sprung up in multiple places at once.
Like I said earlier: I think it very well may be spread out (multiple places at once) because it took Guinea's government six weeks to even identify it...hence the spread.
To be fair with only limited resources they do need to prioritize. And although Ebola a gruesome little bastard its just not something that going to kill hundreds of thousands or millions a year like HIV or Malaria. OR a possible game changer like bird flu or SARS.
If Ebola becomes airborne then they may prioritize it.
If they have received samples in the USA then they would of been able to detect by now any significant mutations. Or at least have some idea somethings different.
Thought we had covered that.
Its likely not traveled at all and has been there a while. Its been shown a strain been found in the Ivory coast and as bats at least carry Ebola Zaire and there range is in that area then it stands to reason it may have always been in the area but due to its rare nature just want stumbled on by some unlucky sod till now.
Not sure what changes your talking about? Its not airborne.
To me the only question is why it sprung up in multiple places at once.
[UN chief urges to prioritize combat of vector-borne diseases
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki- moon on Monday called on the international community to give priority to controlling the spread of vector-borne diseases.
Ban delivered the message in marking the World Health Day, which fell on Monday and is observed annually in commemorating founding of the UN World Health Organization (WHO) in 1948.
"Every year, more than 1 million people die from diseases carried by mosquitoes, flies and other insects, such as triatomine bugs. These vector-borne diseases -- which include malaria, dengue, yellow fever, Japanese encephalitis, Chagas disease and leishmaniasis -- cause chronic illness and immense suffering for hundreds of millions more," said Ban, who said more people are exposed to the vectors that transmit these diseases because of climate change, altered habitats and increased international trade and travel.
I don't think that question has been properly addressed - or answered. Given that fruit bats are common fare in Guinea, it's highly unlikely that "Ebola was there all along" - and only just got noticed. ...The current economic activity aka resource extraction in Liberia might account for one or two of the current Ebola outbreaks but doesn't explain what's happening in Guinea.
No - I'm not trying to imply it's airborne - just sayin' it popped up thousands of miles from where it's been, with no clear or proper explanation as to why.
To me the question is similar but a bit bigger - Why did it jump thousands of miles,
Health Care Workers Struggle to Contain Guinea Ebola
The World Health Organization (WHO) calls the Ebola outbreak in West Africa among the most challenging ever. The organization reports the virus has killed 101 people in Guinea and 10 in Liberia.
...But Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the infectious diseases division at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), says Ebola's appearance in West Africa should not come as a surprise.
“It’s a disease that’s spread by direct contact with an infected person, but it’s also spread by exposure to an infected animal like a bat," Fauci said. "And since we know those animals are in those areas of those adjacent countries, it’s not that unusual to see outbreaks in areas of southern Africa that are adjacent to each other."
....The WHO reports that men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus to sex partners for up to seven weeks after they recover.
I just don't agree with the jumping part. If a strain can be found as far as the Philippines I dont see anything unusual about a strain being found in Africa only a few hundred miles from the Côte d'Ivoire were another strain was found.
Its a new virus on human terms so there not a lot we know about including its range. In fact for a very old virus its odd we haven't encountered it sooner. And maybe we have? Especially if we have DNA markers for it.
maybe its not Zaire but a very very similar new strain. I know Reston tested positive to the same tests as the Zaire strain.
Different influenza strains are found all over the world, and they all are well, ...different. Knowing which specific strain might be endemic in which particular geographic region is essential to disease control.
....Maybe we haven't encountered this very old virus before because it was hiding in areas we have recently disrupted to get at resources.
ALSO NOTE: HomoSkepticus pointed out humans do NOT harbor Ebola DNA in our genes, just bornovirus genes. Check it out here.
Would that be a nightmare scenario?
...How many hemorrhagic fevers are there in the world? ...and we still have the question, "Why now?"
Ebola out of control in Congo, WHO says
Thursday Sep 13, 2012 6:20 AM
An Ebola outbreak in Democratic Republic of Congo risks spreading to major towns if not brought under control soon, the World Health Organization said on Thursday.
The death toll has more than doubled since last week to 31, including five health workers.
…."The epidemic is not under control. On the contrary the situation is very, very serious," Eugene Kabambi, a WHO spokesman in Congo's capital Kinshasa, told Reuters by telephone.
"If nothing is done now, the disease will reach other places, and even major towns will be threatened," he said.
New virus in Africa looks like rabies, acts like Ebola
Thursday Sep 27, 2012 2:26 PM
A virus that killed two teenagers in Congo in 2009 is a completely new type, related to rabies but causing the bleeding and rapid death that makes Ebola infection so terrifying, scientists reported on Thursday. They’re searching for the source of the virus, which may be transmitted by insects or bats.
…..“Although the source of the virus remains unclear, study findings suggest that Bas-Congo virus may be spread by human-to-human contact and is an emerging pathogen associated with acute hemorrhagic fever in Africa,” the researchers wrote.
Africa is loaded with nasty viruses. Lassa fever virus comes from a family known as arenaviruses and causes 500,000 cases of hemorrhagic fever a year. Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever and Rift Valley Fever viruses are in another family called bunyaviruses; Ebola and Marburg viruses are filoviruses that kill anywhere between 30 percent and 90 percent of victims. They’re also helping wipe out great apes such as gorillas in Central Africa. This adds a new one to the list.
It worries Chiu because its closest relative is spread by biting flies in Australia. “We think that is potentially a valuable clue. This virus may have come from an insect vector,” Chiu says. “What is scary about this virus is if it does happen to be spread by insects, it has the potential to be something like West Nile."
…..“It has probably been lurking out there in remote areas and causing sporadic cases of hemorrhagic fever and no one had the resources to discover it,” Chiu said. “This is probably the tip of the iceberg. I believe there are many, many more of these emerging viruses that have yet to be discovered,” he added.
“This points to the importance of being vigilant, especially these remote areas of Africa and Asia. This is the area that I believe the next generation of emerging viruses will come from.”
….Fair’s team and hundreds of other scientists have been looking for the reservoir -- the animal or insect source --of Ebola. That would be a bat or other creature that can carry it without getting sick itself. So far they have had no luck, although fruit bats are a major suspect.
Dr. Ken Alibek, former the First Deputy Director of Biopreparat, speculated that the Russians had aerosolized the Ebola virus for dissemination as a biological weapon. The Japanese terrorist group Aum Shinrikyo reportedly sent members to Zaire during an outbreak to harvest the virus.
reply to post by Advantage
Interesting stuff but we're not here to foment panic. Just keeping an eye on things. : ) ...But for the record, I personally think our petrie-dish planet earth does scarier things than any biolab can (especially given all the synthetic chemicals, contaminants and pollutants we've added to the mix).
Also btw - posted on the Lassa Fever case on April 4.
edit on 9/4/14 by soficrow because: wd