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Originally posted by Jaruseleh
Marduk, I'm curious as to why you would tell someone NOT to read Bauval's work? I will grant you that none of his theories have really been proven, but you have to admit that they are interesting, and make sense.
Basically the pyramids and the nile mirror Orions belt and the milky way precisely, and the sphinx directly faces Leo on the horizon.
If I remember correctly, this precise alignment happens around 10,500 BC. This seems like WAY more than just coincidence to me, especially since it is now believed that the sphinx is older than originally thought due to the water erosion on the sphinx's back.
It also seems to make sense that the head was originally the head of a lion, since the head had no water erosion (that I've seen/read about), and the human head is so much smaller than the feline body. Which, to me, lends more credence that the sphynx had some connection with the constellation Leo.
One thing I am unsure of, however, is when was the Constellation Leo named. Who decided it resembled a Lion, and why?
Originally posted by Byrd
Only if you turn Egypt upside down, or turn Orion upside down in the night sky. And, since the Sphynx is oriented toward the rising sun, it faces EVERY equitorial constellation as well as the rising sun. I'm not sure how he counts "Leo rising" -- whether he mans it's hidden behind the sun or that it's the first bright evening constellation to appear in the east after the sky darkens or what. But the ancient Egyptians weren't very good astronomers and their maps of the sky is pretty indifferent.
Anyway, at different times of the year, the sun rises with the constellation Leo. It occurs for a month every year... and has done so since the beginning of time.
Originally posted by TheBorg
I hate to continually be the one to raise controversial questions, but I got one. Isn't it just possible that there was a group of people around before the Egyptians that built the Pyramids and the Sphinx at Giza?
Originally posted by Jaruseleh
I just wanted to add a little to this...the theory is that at the time of 10,500 B.C. the constellation Leo is on the horizon (I believe on the spring Equinox) so the sun basically rises directly through it, and the Sphinx is directly facing it. At the same time, the nile river essentially "runs into" the milky way on the horizon so it appears the river flows into the sky, and the 3 stars of Orions belt are directly over the pyramids and line up precisely. I know you state that that's not true, but this is essentially how Bauval describes it.
I would love to see proof that this is false if you have it, but for now, it's a really interesting theory, and if true, it's WAY too coincidental to mean absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by Byrd
Ancient people who showed up and built the pyramids and just for fun carved the workers' team names in Egyptian hieroglyphics (which wouldn't be developed for ...oh... 6,000 years after the proposed 10,000 BC date)?
And carved Khufu's name (8,000 years before he was born) and their team names (in proper hieroglyphics) on two blocks high inside the pyramid in a rather inaccessible spot?
And similar hieroglyphics in the pyramid of Menukaure?
Who rose from the dust leaving no traces of earlier stages of their civilization but just "showed up" and built one monument (while having the foresight to carve the names of work teams from Khufu's temples and pyramids in the granite and limestone quarries where the stone originated?
How are you proposing that they determined the names 6,000 years before these people were born and knew how to write in a way (Egyptian hieroglypics went through a number of changes) that was correct for the time period of Khufu... but not for earlier times?
By the way, the Egyptians didn't "lose" the history of Cleopatra and of Tut. She was a Greek ruler who ruled Egypt... and was the 6th Cleopatra to do so, in fact. Rome took over Egypt and ruled instead of the pharoahs... which is why Cleo's history isn't recorded by Egypt (and was recorded instead by Rome), though there are artifacts and so forth from her era.
Tut wasn't "erased." There were stele and other markers around with his name. His body was hidden in the Valley of Kings to keep him safe from tomb robbers. His original burial chamber was changed, and what was "lost" (hidden) was the knowledge of wher he was buried... not his name or some of his deeds.
If royal resting places are happened upon, they very well may not be intact. Ninety-nine percent of tombs in the Valley had been robbed, most in antiquity, by the time they were brought to light. Even Tut's had intruders, though they apparently made off with little, and the four-room chamber was resealed and remained untouched for 3,000 years until Carter entered it in the 1920s. One reason that Tut's was virtually pristine was that subsequent rulers erased him from Egyptian history, along with his father and the rest of the rulers of the so-called Amarna Period that Akhenaten established; later plunderers may not have known to look for his tomb.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Seekerof
There is artifact evidence that is being suppressed that shows evidence of a second Sphinx. You can see these artifacts on the Advanced civilization page at www,pangeawv.com These artifacts were created by a true ancient advanced civilization with many artifacts to prove it.