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So if some one tries to sell me a book saying the Earth is flat and the sun is just a shiny bird and I don't believe it I AM narrow minded?
That YOU would believe it speaks a lot of YOU as a person.
There is a difference between being open minded and being gullible
I have been to his site dozens of times so I don't need to feed the con man I have better things to do with my money
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
I don't know what so funny, because the joke is on you. You are "trolling" on Icke, and making yourself look very bad indeed. Read his books, mate, or zip it. Do you remember what Icke said to you during the interview?
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
I am starting to seriously gravitate towards Ike's "Lizard factor" after my own research has supported a lot of what he has said, even though I did not set out to research him:
1. US is run by a nepotist European bloodline royals.
2. The Queen of England collects tax from the US and also gives orders to US social security, the federal government and the judicial system.
3. US still remains a European colony and 70% of it's economy is run by elite european families.
4. The NWO's origins date as far as the Roman empire and lead to globalization after the imperial era.
5. They are involved in secret satanical socities that perform ritualistic child abuse.
5. They are all jointly involved in the NWO development, and simutaneously calling out for one and laying out plans for totaliterian regimes.
6. There are aliens and they are involved with our governments, and both are keeping us in the dark. One such reported factions are reptillian aliens, and reported to be hostile to humas.
7. There is a lot of historically documented anecdotes of shape-shifting reptillians in a diverse range of cultures
If one were to sum up all these points, they would be left with something that sounds a lot like what Ike is saying:
A group of reptillian races, that were represented as evil by the bible, with hostile agendas towards humans, that systematically poisoned, murdered and retarded human society over a milllenia and which is culminating into it's total enslavement. I remember times when I use to read the bible and laugh at the notions of demons and evil serpants, but really today, I'm not so sure.
There is so much happening in the world, that it is difficult to say if anything is impossible now. Deny all the BS you have been fed by the propaganda machine called education. Go out there with a blank mind, be a child again, and find out for yourself what the world is all about.
I think I should read some of Ikes books and see where it leads me.
[edit on 25-11-2004 by Indigo_Child]
Originally posted by Cade
How do you feel that you are "moderating" anything, by making fun of members idears in this thread?
Do you feel that a moderator should "chill" those who make fun of others opinions IN A FORUM FOR ALIENS!!! Or do you feel a moderator should himself be the one to rock the boat and make fun of the members he is there to "moderate" ?
I mean, we can all see what you are doing and how investigative your mind is, but when you sit back and take a hard look at your role as a moderater, how do you respond to the above questions?
Originally posted by aelphaeis_mangarae
Stanton Friedman doesn't know #, i probably am a better UFOlogist than him.
Bob Lazar is not a fraud
Originally posted by Jamuhn
If you read Icke's books Amuk, you would see multiple resources. As well, there is philosophical value to his writings. Read 'Tales from the Time Loop' and then maybe you'll have a little more standing on this subject.
Originally posted by Amuk
Originally posted by Cade
How do you feel that you are "moderating" anything, by making fun of members idears in this thread?
The only thing I am making fun of is peoples willingness to believe the most outlandish stories without the slightest bit of proof
Do you feel that a moderator should "chill" those who make fun of others opinions IN A FORUM FOR ALIENS!!! Or do you feel a moderator should himself be the one to rock the boat and make fun of the members he is there to "moderate" ?
If I hurt your feelings feel free to get a tissue, I have a right to my opinion just like anyone else if you don't like it take it up with management. If you wish to believe in fairy tales be my guest but I need a little more proof than just the word of someone trying to separate fools and there money. If you or ANYONE else can show me ANY kind of proof to back up his outlandish claims I will be happy to listen. That was the reason of this thread to see who the members trusted and who they didn't. Why should it matter to you if I don't believe Icke? It sure doesn't matter to me if YOU do.
I mean, we can all see what you are doing and how investigative your mind is, but when you sit back and take a hard look at your role as a moderater, how do you respond to the above questions?
Is it investigative to believe any story without any proof? I have repeated in just about every post for someone to give me the slightest reason to believe his BS and so far no one has. How about you Skippy? Want to make me a believer? If so show me something that can be proved. The reptile BS could be proved with any DNA sample from a cigarette butt or silverware from where they ate. I would imagine that a shape shifting reptile alien should have DNA different than a human. It shouldn't be hard to collect the DNA since EVERY world leader and EVERYONE in ANY place of power is one. I wonder why Icke has never done it? All it would take is tweenty bucks to a waitress and he would have his proof and I would be really embarassed. But of course you are free to believe it without ANY proof just dont expect me too.
Originally posted by Cade
Amuk, I for one am not trying to convince you of anything. I'm not trying to make a believer out of you, just trying to make a tolerant person out of you, will this be hard for me
Originally posted by Cade
Amuk, I for one am not trying to convince you of anything. I'm not trying to make a believer out of you, just trying to make a tolerant person out of you, will this be hard for me?
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
So I suggest to Amuk, to honour ATS rules, and keep his personal issues to himself, so we can resume intelligent discussion of the topic.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
In having attended an extensive seminar with David Icke, I can state that he is sincere in his ideas and has some good research about symbology in traditional religions. But he is misled about his belief that there are shape-shifting Reptilians in high levels of government and that they control this planet.
John Lear was interviewed in this forum. One of the things he confirmed is the story of a security guard at the Dulce Facility who went to prison for publicly discussing his experience and awareness about aliens. He was just a security guard.
The same applies to Bob Lazar. He is indeed listed as having worked at the classified government installations that he claims.
Stanton Friedman is a good researcher in the overall sense but I think he harbors prejudice � especially in his appraisal of Bob Lazar.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
And finally "comparing research" you've done none. As far as I am concerned, you got nothing new to add to this topic. All you are doing is laughing at everyone, and frankly it annoys. You are being a nuisance. Stop it.