Virginia school reportedly complains 8-year-old girl not feminine enough

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posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 09:27 AM
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An 8-year-old Virginia girl has been taken out of her school after administrators complained she was acting too much like a boy.

WSET-TV reports that the grandparents of Sunnie Kahle received a letter from officials at Timberlake Christian School notifying them that their granddaughter would be refused enrollment next year if she didn't follow the school's "biblical standards" and change her appearance.

The letter reads in part, "We believe that unless Sunnie as well as her family clearly understand that God has made her female and her dress and behavior need to follow suit with her God-ordained identity, that TCS is not the best place for her future education."

Apparently God finds tomboy's offensive. Timberlake Christian School decided that this young girls wasn't acting and dressing like a girl so they sent a ridiculous letter home to her grandparents telling them she would not be accepted back to the school next year. The grandparents promptly took her out of Timberlake and enrolled her in public school. Good for them!

I knew lots of little girls that acted and dressed like this at 8 years old. Someone needs to chill out.


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posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 09:30 AM
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If this is how this school responds to tomboys, what other whacko policies are they enforicing, and discriminatory opinons exalting?? And therefore, why the grandparents had kept her in that school so long.


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posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 09:31 AM
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- It's a private school so they can do what they want.
The private school can set dress standards and students have to follow them.

- I don't know how someone can legislate 'acting feminine' or 'acting masculine'. To think that you can shows a severe lack of understanding of basic psychology. And considering it's a school, you'd hope that the admin would understand basic human psychology.

- The child will be better off not being in that school. I'm glad the family found a healthier situation for her. I feel bad for the children left behind who are stuck in that situation.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 09:33 AM
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No link to the story? This is a private school, so... their house, their rules. Having said that, I would personally never put my daughter in a "Christian" school. Too much indoctrination of the sort I wouldn't want her subjected to, present example included.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 09:36 AM
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Goes to show that not just public schools are screwed. The majority of school systems in this country are in such bad shape, it's no wonder homeschooling has increased so much over the last decade. I have dealt with corruption here at our school, and it's really disheartening. And to boot, the schools push this "anti bullying" stuff when the administration bullies not only it's employees but also parents of enrolled students.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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Sounds like an excellent opportunity/reason to send this little girl to a public school.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 09:47 AM
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For some reason, people get emotional reward from controlling others. I understand that's to be expected from Religion. Maybe that's why it was invented in the first place? So when it backfires on you, I guess you can ask God why.

But lately it seems to be spreading. School principles, mall cops, bureaucrats. Acting out at random people because deep down it is control of their own lives they lack.

If you are one of these people that makes yourself feel good by imposing leverage on someone else, stop! Just stop. It's a cancer that will eat your soul.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 09:51 AM
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denybedoomed
Goes to show that not just public schools are screwed. The majority of school systems in this country are in such bad shape, it's no wonder homeschooling has increased so much over the last decade. I have dealt with corruption here at our school, and it's really disheartening. And to boot, the schools push this "anti bullying" stuff when the administration bullies not only it's employees but also parents of enrolled students.


the OP is talking about a religious school...you don't think this is "bullying"? this is what arrogant religious S.O.B.'s do....they assign their own warped beliefs to that of 'god" ....just like in the dark ages of hyper-religious Europe



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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This story reminds me of my two nieces when they were young. Deeply religious parents. (Inlaws). The girls were forbidden to cut their hair,wear pants,or act in any manner contradictory to that of a proper young christian women.( according to their church definition of proper.). All the women of this church and other parishes,dressed the same. To them,to deviate from this,was to deviate from god. The girls have since become adults,and no longer follow these strict rules. I have no clue what purpose it served to enforce them.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:05 AM
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jimmyx
the OP is talking about a religious school...you don't think this is "bullying"?

If I'm reading correctly ... the poster did indeed think it was bullying by the school.
He made the comment that it's not just public schools that are screwed, but religious ones are as well.
Unless I"m missing something ... you guys agree on this. The religious school is messed up.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:07 AM
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I worked with a woman who also worked in a fundamentalist church school in town. She split her time between working with the preschoolers where I was, and working with the children at the church school. She was not allowed to wear pants on the grounds. If she did, she got a warning and was sent home. If she got three warnings, she'd be fired.

I thought it was insane, but if a person agrees to work under those conditions, then they have to follow the rules.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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Here is the Presser from the school:

tcs4u.org...

Notice the letterhead, "Liberty Council," which is in the same city as Liberty University..???

Depends on your views on Jerry Falwell, IMO, hmmmm...

If you are into evangelism, attend his like minded churches and schools.

If you are not, like me, then don't attend, or send your precious little ones to attend.

Christian extremists, IMO.



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posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:10 AM
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Around these parts the public schools are by far superior to the private religious and charter schools. A 4th grade math assignment for public is the equivalent of a 6th grade one for the others. The private and charter schools have become a dumping ground for kids with behavioral and learning issues.
My gf works as a behavioral aide at the charter school, her job is to follow around a 6th grader and keep the kid from disrupting others. He has choked one student (she wasnt around then), threatened another with scissors, they had to clear an entire classroom since he wouldn't leave, and they couldn't touch him fearing a lawsuit. Finally they called the police...they won't kick him out because he's a warm ass in the seat and a sped at that, so the school makes money and since it is a charter, that's the bottom line.

Every school system is unique. The actions of a school in Virginia probably aren't similar to one in South Dakota even if they are both private and Christian. Metallicus is on a roll today



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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God would be spinning in his grave if he knew he was the cause of so much stupidity.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:29 AM
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FlyersFan

jimmyx
the OP is talking about a religious school...you don't think this is "bullying"?

If I'm reading correctly ... the poster did indeed think it was bullying by the school.
He made the comment that it's not just public schools that are screwed, but religious ones are as well.
Unless I"m missing something ... you guys agree on this. The religious school is messed up.




I was commenting on the "they do I too" argument....as it relates to private and public schools. as with any institution, there is always going to be the 5% that screw it up for the other 95%. I think the top administrators of religious schools, are more inclined to be elevated to those positions based on their religious politics, rather than their academic acumen.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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Well, non Christians would typically not put their children into Christian schools. Wouldn't make any sense, too many morals and rules to adhere to. Although non Christians put their children into the once Christian group the Boy Scouts of America all the time. That makes no sense either.
But as far as the topic at hand, it's a private Christian school and their rules apply. I do not agree with their decision on this one but I'm sure we don't know all of the details either. I can see a bit of where they are coming from but they went too far IMO.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:32 AM
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There is a story about this here straight from the local newspaper and therefore less corrupted by media influence favoring any agenda.
www.roanoke.com... 878.html




Thompson said Sunnie had an issue in kindergarten when a girl thought Sunnie was a boy in the girls’ bathroom. The incident led her kindergarten teacher raise concerns about Sunnie’s gender identity again.


and then this:




Thompson said during the first semester of second grade, some boys tried to pull Sunnie into a boys’ bathroom at the school. That incident, Thompson said, brought concerns from the school about Sunnie’s gender expression and appearance to the forefront again.


I am sorry but both of these cases the girl really did nothing wrong in my view. The first one was really just a misunderstanding and the second one it should be the boys getting repremanded for that one! Regardless of what sex they all were having a group of kids all trying to pull a kid into the bathroom would be rather alarming! And I would like to point out that the grandmother had brought this up with a doctor and the doctor advise her to leave the girl alone about it.

The school isn't saying too much about this and it kind of sounds that they've already sought out legal counsel on it.
This is what Liberty Council had to say:




Wednesday’s news release, issued by Liberty Counsel on behalf of the school, noted TCS is “limited in what can be related about this situation.” “This matter is far beyond a simple ‘hairstyle and tomboy issue’ ... The School has never told S.K. she cannot return to school,” it stated. “Parents and guardians send their children to the School because of our Christian beliefs and standards. We have a duty to create an environment that is supportive of these Christian values. We cannot have conflicting messages or standards because such conflict will confuse our students and frustrate the parents and guardians who have entrusted the education of their children to us. “When elementary children and their parents or guardians express concerns regarding use of the restroom and other matters arising from the sensitive issues here, the School has a duty to address those concerns and to ensure that all interests are heard and protected in accordance with the Christian mission of the School. “While we welcome all students, parents and guardians are made aware of the School’s Christian mission and beliefs. We not only have a right, but we also have a duty to uphold these Christian standards.”



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:33 AM
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In Tennessee, the private Christian school students far excel over their public school counterparts. Even better, home school students excel the most.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:33 AM
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Likely, the other children never noticed anything odd about her. This is the opinion of adults who have been raised with a strict standard for conformation. They want to remove any examples that may raise questions and which do not fit the bias of the community. I assume they fear she may be a bad influence and possibly propagate homosexuality, whether the child is gay or not.

There are several christian/catholic schools in my area as this entire state is deeply indoctrinated into thousands of different religious sects. It is quite common to hear similar stories of kids being pointed out by teachers for not following religious policy. The other kids see this and follow the example set by the teacher. This leads to segregation and bullying for not fitting into the mold.

Some of these parents i know are not religious at all and just fly under the radar so their kids can get a better education. ( i live in Tennessee and we have very low test scores in our public schools. Probably because of the religious state of mind that prevails around here. ) The admin actively questions parents to test their faith. If the family doesnt pass muster, they are quietly pushed out of the school.

Good luck to all these children.



posted on Mar, 27 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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The way I see it, a K-2nd grader typically does not pick out their own clothes without parent or guardian approval. Her grandparents sent her to a Private Christian School dressed and looking the way she did. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing but I can see some of the school's point. It is a Private CHRISTIAN school and the students have to abide by their rules or they are out of there.





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