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Is almost certainly against some of the rules set out for MPs and politicians.
Rivers don't just flow through peoples land, they flow adjacent to peoples land. Instead of allowing people with water adjacent to their property to take it and sell it, it would make far more sense for the law to be changed so that only water companies can take it.
And my point re rivers flow for hundreds of miles, which I assume you're deliberately ignoring, is that they flow across council owned land, government land, public land, and water company owned land - there is no need for the current system to exist.
And why don't I report the second point instead of "whinging about it on a forum" - this is a conspiracy forum, and to me this looks like it could be another "snouts in the trough" scenario, or in other words a political conspiracy to make money by abusing positions of power and influence.
The other site is, as mentioned many times - thisisthebigdeal (.com) set up by Henry de Zoete, of the de Zoete banking dynasty, ex employee of Michael Gove UK Member of Parliament.
Why should Water companies be given a monopoly more than they have already? It would only make the situation worse. It seems to me your just pissed you don't live next to a river and can't do this yourself, because if you could, you would. Don't lie!
Do you have any idea how much it costs to transport water? Water firms want it as close as they can to where they need it, not to pump it from 200 miles downstream when the river can do the work for you and you extract it closer. I wasn't ignoring it, I just thought it was totally irrelevant.
Uh-huh - not sure what that has to do with the price of fish... Essentially, what you're saying, is that nobody who has any connections with any MP or Minister can go into business? I'm sure Mr Gove has many employees and ex-employees - are they all assumed to be up to no good if they go into business and use the contacts they developed?
BTW, Gove is the the Education Minister and has nothing to do with Energy policy nor is privy to anything Ofgem get up too.
Yorkshire water used to belong to us yorkshire people then some corrupt people sold it. All us yorkshire people got was extortionate bills. Yorkshire water is now owned by some rich chinese people. Poor people cant buy a pint of milk nether mind shares. So who are the thieves?
Wow, that IS strange. It seems like it would be much cheaper for the councils to extract the water and have it treated themselves. Thats what is done here, except for bottled spring water.
What, a monopoly to take free water that falls from the sky rather than buying it from someone else who takes that free water from the sky, and sells it to them instead?
Most people wouldn't do it quite simply because they wouldn't have the spare £10K for a license, or be able to fund the cost of storage, etc that you'd need to set up.
But a rich land owner could, not a bad return, a few £10's of thousands for £millions per year in return.
Your refusal to see that this is wrong and constant accusations of me being jealous suggests to me that you ARE doing it and don't like the idea of losing free money.
This is an issue and a cost that affects every family and home in the country.
Right, so what you're saying is that all of the people extracting the water are right next door to a water company? Because whether they need to transport it, or the water company extracts it and needs to transport it - it's going to cost someone money, and it's going to be factored into the price we all end up paying.
Bottom line is it makes no sense to allow someone to do nothing more than drain water from a river and sell it to a water company, when the water company could do that without the expense of buying the water from a middle man.
There's a difference between leaving the employ of a government minister - and let's not be naive, if you work for one you certainly know others - and setting up your own business.
But when you set up a business aimed at energy prices, politicians then announce an inquiry into energy prices, and those same politicians also recommend the business that's been set up about energy prices by an ex employee of another minister - that's collusion.
It isn't just a small business doing X that has a recommendation or testimonial from a minister, it's a website set up about something that every house in the country needs, the ministers responsible for that utility then start action against the companies that provide the utility, and at the same time forward the public to the website set up by an employee of another minister just 1 month after he left the ministers employment, and 2 months before the inquiry is announced.
Plus they get national tv coverage, newspaper coverage, ministerial backing, etc.
Do you work for a minister? Because you sure sound like you're trying to brush this under the carpet.
I'm just pointing out that people don't wrap their heads around scams because they're so busy looking for ways to scam other people. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
i dont know why i bother with you as you have been shown to have no integrity in your posts.
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Nope - Yorkshire Water is a owned by Kelda Group, based in Bradford, who themselves are owned by HSBC (UK Bank) and Citigroup (US Bank). No evil Chinese here...
The average household bill for Yorkshire Water is apparently £373. £31 a month for on demand, clean as you like drinking water. £1 a day.
All while millions around the world die from drinking the water they are provided..
Honestly, sometimes I do wonder if we in the West have any idea how good we have it...
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Haha, that's rich...
No integrity says symptom, who is well known for talking total bollocks then wandering off as if he won... At least what I say can be verified, I deal only in facts, not emotionally charged BS. I'm sure there are some "rich Chinese" who have shares in one of the firms who own YW, but in the same vein there are probably some "rich English" and "Rich Nigerians" but that is a world away from what you claimed.
And you have the audacity to claim I have no integrity.... If anything, I cleared the waters up, not "muddied" them, which is what you did with your quip about the Chinese taking over YW.
And if your water bills are over £520 a year, your being ripped off or something is wrong. Maybe you should get yourself on a meter and pay for what you use? Or do you have a massive house, because un-metered rates were set back in the 90's by local authorities, much like Council Tax and is based on a properties value.
i dont know why i bother.
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Actually, with you, I don;t think I have been "abrasive" - However, when someone jumps in with both feet saying such things as "I lack integrity" and that I am "muddying the water", they can expect some abrasion back.
I also do not believe I have "avoided" anything you have said - in fact, I've taken great care to go through you posts in detail. I do have to laugh though at your stock answer of calling me a "paid shill", the standard fall back tactic when all else is lost.
stumason if you want to get ahead in business, as in life, it pays to be informed.