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gariac
weather modification flights
Aircraft N37360
FAA data
Weather modification website
And it is raining in California. Sounds good to me.
You don't define cloud seeding as Geo-Engineering?
Odd.... The world authorities sure do.
There is also a range of views concerning the inclusion or exclusion of weather modification technologies, such as cloud seeding, within the definition of geoengineering. Proponents of inclusion argue that the history, intention, institutions, technologies themselves, and impacts are closely related to geoengineering. Nevertheless, unless they can be scaled-up sufficiently to achieve (beneficial) climatic effects at the global level, they are considered out of scope for the current study.36
Wrabbit2000
reply to post by seabhac-rua
You don't define cloud seeding as Geo-Engineering?
Odd.... The world authorities sure do.
Sorry, I can't find anywhere in that link where cloud seeding as is being conducted is referred to as geoengineering.
Read that and you'll see it's very much talked about, very specifically and in more than one section.
Geoengineering refers to a broad set of methods and technologies that aim to deliberately alter the climate system in order to alleviate the impacts of climate change. Most, but not all, methods seek to either (a) reduce the amount of absorbed solar energy in the climate system (Solar Radiation Management) or (b) increase net carbon sinks from the atmosphere at a scale sufficiently large to alter climate (Carbon Dioxide Removal). Scale and intent are of central importance. Two key characteristics of geoengineering methods of particular concern are that they use or affect the climate system (e.g., atmosphere, land or ocean) globally or regionally and/or could have substantive unintended effects that cross national boundaries. Geoengineering is different from weather modification and ecological engineering, but the boundary can be fuzzy.
www.ipcc-wg3.de...
This clearly distinguishes geoengineering from, e.g., weather modification or other sorts of environmental engineering which attempt to modify the atmosphere or the land surface on a much smaller scale.
You have relayed no such thing.
So, I'm relaying what is, at this point in history, accepted as a part of the Geoengineering debate in official conferences of international authorities and government officials.
luxordelphi
reply to post by gariac
Plus three (3) tornadoes in the Sacramento area. Don't forget those.
gariac
luxordelphi
reply to post by gariac
Plus three (3) tornadoes in the Sacramento area. Don't forget those.
One was by Discovery Bay. I don't know enough about cloud seeding to comment if they are related.
What safeguards are in place during cloud seeding operations?
Safety measures are typically employed on cloud seeding projects in the U.S. These may include seeding suspensions in the event of specified snowpack thresholds, flooding potential, severe weather such as tornadoes or funnel clouds, and aircraft safety concerns such as severe icing or turbulence.
George Flickinger, former chief meteorologist for KTXS-TV in Abilene, Texas, made the following statement in a newspaper article, “You really can’t predict what you get once you start messing with the weather,” he said. “What’s to say a seeded cloud might not produce an F3 tornado somewhere along its journey and wind up killing a dozen people? Or that a cloud might just stop where it is, dump its rains and cause flash flooding in a given area? Or that someone will say that the seeding efforts wound up stealing the rains they needed? “Who would be responsible?”[14]
Here is where it gets interesting. Ms. Macmillan theorized: “Due to Colorado’s fires, ashes—acting as cloud seeding agents—filtered up into the atmosphere, drifted northeast toward Wisconsin, and then caused tremendous flooding. Plus, did ash produced by half-million-acre wildfires in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas create record-breaking rainfall and flooding in states along the Mississippi River such as Illinois, Missouri, Arkansas and Mississippi? Then, of course, there were hailstorms, 100-day long heatwaves, and a tornado that obliterated Joplin.”
What safeguards are in place during cloud seeding operations?
Safety measures are typically employed on cloud seeding projects in the U.S. These may include seeding suspensions in the event of specified snowpack thresholds, flooding potential, severe weather such as tornadoes or funnel clouds, and aircraft safety concerns such as severe icing or turbulence.
George Flickinger, former chief meteorologist for KTXS-TV in Abilene, Texas, made the following statement in a newspaper article, “You really can’t predict what you get once you start messing with the weather,” he said. “What’s to say a seeded cloud might not produce an F3 tornado somewhere along its journey and wind up killing a dozen people? Or that a cloud might just stop where it is, dump its rains and cause flash flooding in a given area? Or that someone will say that the seeding efforts wound up stealing the rains they needed? “Who would be responsible?”[14]
Phage
reply to post by luxordelphi
Interesting opinions from a TV weatherman and a realtor.
Ok.
No. It's Ms. Mcmillian that's the realtor.
ETA: Just saw Phage's comment about him being a realtor also. Selling someone a home is dangerous. What's to say the house won't catch on fire while they're in it?