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A body rejected by the WHO is producing vaccines for decades and you are okay with that?
You do realize this is the same government running the facility in partnership with private interests that just declared the mandatory vaccination schedule after its corporation couldn't find enough investors?
I am curious if you are aware of the current WHO license status of these other vaccine producers?
If so, why not produce your source and set a good example?
ATS is a better place than this and will be a better place again when behaviour and decorum makes a return to it's rightful place as a guiding principle.
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7.156 billion people on earth(and counting) so as you can see the demand is high.
A deeper look into Individual vaccines
The general public is essentially unaware of the true number of people -- mostly children -- who have been permanently damaged or killed by vaccines. In fact, most parents would be surprised to learn that the government has a secret computer database filled with several thousand names of disabled and dead babies, children who were healthy and alive just prior to receiving the vaccines. Of course, the medical establishment and federal government don't readily disclose this information because they know it's likely to frighten parents into seeking other ways to protect their children. In other words, parents just might think this issue through on their own and decide to reject the shots.
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So you don't know where these mandatory vaccines are being manufactured or by who
and yet your are applauding the mandate?
Now you are switching the subject to China which is entirely off topic?
For what purpose are you drastically changing course now?
I am curious if you are aware of the current WHO license status of these other vaccine producers? www.abovetopsecret.com...
Since 1999, Croatia has had compulsory nationwide inoculations, which have found great success. According to government estimates, "No occurrences of diphtheria, whooping cough (pertussis), measles, parotitis and poliomyelitis often called polio or infantile paralysis have been registered in recent years, while tetanus rates have been reduced by 97%, tuberculosis by 93% and hepatitis B, with mandatory vaccination against this disease introduced in 1999, by 65%."....................................................................................................................................
The ruling: Now the court has put that argument to rest by ruling that these private concerns don't supersede public safety. "The child's right to health is more than the rights of parents to the (wrong) choice," the court wrote in its ruling. All children must now receive shots for DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, haemophilus influenza B, MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) and tuberculosis.
This could seem like some kind of communist-based instance of a nanny-state government taking away parental controls, but there's a perfectly logical explanation: vaccines are really only effective when there's "herd immunity," or an overwhelming majority of a population that is inoculated. Because vaccines are not 100% effective, there is always a small risk of infection even after a person receives a shot. But that risk shrinks more and more as other people are also vaccinated, since the chances of a chain infection decrease to a very low probability. policymic
A Croatian court has decreed that all children born in the country will be vaccinated against a suite of diseases, including hepatitis, measles, pertussis (whooping cough), and diphtheria, according to an announcement made yesterday (March 26) in the Croatian newspaper Večernji list. “The child’s right to health is more than the rights of parents to the (wrong) choice,” according to a Google Translate version of the article.
Mandatory vaccination for these diseases began as early as 1999, and the country has seen a dramatic drop in disease, with zero reported cases of diphtheria, pertussis, and measles in recent years, and drastic reductions in the occurrence of tetanus, tuberculosis, and hepatitis B.
But in recent years the anti-vaccine movement led to increased numbers of Croatian children not being vaccinated. Twenty-eight were not vaccinated in 2012, and 143 in 2013, prompting some 10,000 people to sign a petition stating that “the vaccination of healthy children poses a threat to their health,” according to The Hairpin.
With the court’s decision to uphold the mandate, “Croatia is setting the global standard for intelligent, evidence-based public health,” infectious-disease specialist Kent Sepkowitz of the Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center wrote on The Daily Beast.TheScientist
Slovenia’s got one of the most advanced vaccination programs in the world. Babies must get immunized against nine of the deadliest infectious diseases in their first year of life.
People can’t skip shots just because they don’t agree with the policy, and anyone who dodges the law has to pay a fine. As a result, 95% of Slovenians comply with the mandatory vaccination law, making the program a major success.
Read more at www.ryot.org...
I can not see where you supplied any supporting evidence to this very ridiculous claim of yours above.
Demand is high, Ha.
Manufacturing problems have created shortages of a variety of vaccines around the world. Now GlaxoSmithKline ($GSK) is warning that problems at a plant in Belgium will cause a shortage of two chickenpox vaccines in the countries where they are sold. The vaccines are not sold in the U.S.
Read more: UPDATED: GSK blames chickenpox vaccine shortage on plant problems - FiercePharma Manufacturing www.fiercepharmamanufacturing.com...
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British travellers heading for the tropics could be halted by a worldwide shortage of vaccine against yellow fever, a disease found in destinations including Brazil and Kenya.
The increased concern about two deadly strains of the flu virus could lead to a shortage of vaccines this year in B.C., health officials have confirmed.CBC News
Products Affected - Description
Reason for the Shortage
Sanofi Pasteur stated the reason for the shortage was increased demand and manufacturing delay.
Novartis could not provide a reason for this shortage.ASHP
How safe is the chickenpox vaccine? The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), the federal organization established by Congress in 1986 to document adverse reactions to vaccines, received nearly 10,000 reports involving the chickenpox vaccine between the months of March 1995 and December 1999, a period of less than five years. The FDA and CDC studied 6,574 of these reports -- those filed between March 17, 1995 and July 25, 1998 -- and published their findings in the Journal of the American Medical Association.(19) Here is a summary of their findings: Adverse reactions in recipients of the chickenpox vaccine occurred at a rate of 67.5 reports per 100,000 doses sold. Approximately four percent of reports described "serious" adverse reactions. By FDA definition, "serious" reactions refer to deaths, life-threatening events, hospitalizations, persistent or significant disabilities, and other incidents of medical importance. For example, the data analyzed in this report included numerous cases of neurological disorders, immune system damage, blood disorders, brain inflammation, seizures, and death (Figure 1). These figures do not take into account the FDA's own admission that "potentially substantial under-reporting" made the figures "highly variable fractions of actual event numbers."(20) Nor do these figures take into account that "doses sold" (about 9.7 million through July 1998) is a CDC "projection" for which no reliable documentation can be found. Authors of the study based their figures on "oral" and private "unpublished data" from the CDC.(21,22) In some parts of the country vaccination rates are below 10 percent.(23,24) If the CDC inflated the actual number of doses sold, the true rate of adverse reactions following administration of the chickenpox vaccine is much higher. Link
Since I looked up if the countries they export vaccines to seem to be lacking in their own manufacturing of vaccines the idea that Croatia may be supplementing their vaccine stocks with ones from China is possible so no I do not think it is off topic at all to give you the information on their WHO license status in line with your question. That being said it is not an attempt to switch the subject to China.
In fact why are you switching the subject from Croation mandated vaccines to vaccine manufacturers? Isn't this thread about the ruling?
Demand for food is high, this I can work out easy enough, but who is the high demand for vaccines for, who's ordering?
I don't see 7+ billion people demanding vaccine's.
That was said in the Croation court. So it is implied that some people wish to not vaccinate even if the choice they wish to make is the wrong one.
The child's right to health is more than the rights of parents to the (wrong) choice.
So you don't care where the vaccines come from?
Maybe the next time you go get your flu vaccine you make sure to locate one produced by a clinic that does not have World Health Organization licensing?
For the folks who seem to think they caught me in a lie, they ought to go ahead and read through the report cited here. I shouldn't have to skim through it to select the exact paragraph for you or link to the actual document as it is simple enough to locate.
New report on corruption in health
I guess I really shouldn't bother attempting to educate the folks in this thread.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.
-FBBedit on 29-3-2014 by FriedBabelBroccoli because: 101
“Quantifying corruption in medicine is especially difficult because so many possible cases, like billing for unnecessary procedures, could also be put down to clinical error, or a simple mistake. There are also grey areas, such as the hospitality and funding many doctors receive from the pharmaceutical industry that may or may not be considered corruption,” Rodríguez said.