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originally posted by: Durwood
Without a doubt, the word of God proves that the antichrist will be nero who comes up out of the bottomless pit.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
The whole chapter is talking about the beast and then the last verse ( 18 )
it says that the number of the beast is the number of a man. In other words it is saying the beast is a man.
Now lets go to chapter 17:8
8 The beast (man)that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast (man)that was, and is not, and yet is.
The Angel then says that the beast (man)was( before AD 96 when the Angel was telling him this) , is not ( is dead in AD 96 when the Angel is telling him this), and he SHALL ( future tense) ASCEND OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT.
In the same verse it says they that dwell on the earth shall wonder( be astonished or startled) when they behold the beast (man) who was alive, was dead , and yet is alive.
You can't get around the part where it says the world wonders ( astonished or startled in some translations) about the beast ( man ) that was alive , then dead , and yet is alive. The world wouldn't be astonished about a spirit, but they would about a man who lived 1900 years ago, and had died, yet was alive again.
Now we move on to the same chapter 17 to verses 10 and 11
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
He says five kings have already fallen ( are dead), one is ( he is king in when the Angel is telling him this) , and one is not yet come ( not here yet)
11 And the beast (man)that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition
And the beast (man) that was alive, is not alive, even he is the eighth king, and is one of the former seven kings.
this is the simple word of God showing us that the beast is a man who comes out of the bottomless pit to become the eighth king, yet is one of the former seven kings. He was alive before AD 96 ,was dead in AD 96 , and shall ascend OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT to become the eighth king.
Kings are people , not spirits
WHAT ARE THE FACTS?
FACT 1 - THE ANGEL SAID THE BEAST IS THE NUMBER OF A MAN REV 13:18
FACT 2 - HE WAS ALIVE BEFORE THE ANGEL WAS TALKING TO JOHN , BUT NOT ALIVE WHILE THE ANGEL WAS TALKING TO JOHN, AND IS GONNA ASCEND OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT ( FUTURE TENSE ). AND THEIR CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE IN A.D.96
FACT 3 - HE WILL BE THE EIGHTH KING AND WILL BE ONE OF THE FORMER SEVEN KINGS. WHICH THE ONLY WAY THAT CAN HAPPEN IS IF YOU COME BACK FROM THE DEAD OR THE BOTTOMLESS PIT WHICH IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS IS GONNA HAPPEN.
Nero Caesar in aramaic is spelled NRON KSR. Aramaic letters have numeral values like roman numerals.
What do we know about the antichrist?
He had to be alive BEFORE AD 96 and nero was
He had to be dead in AD 96 and nero was
He had to be one of the fallen kings BEFORE AD 96 and nero was
His name has to add up to 666 in Aramaic which was Johns native language and neros does
The bible says that the antichrist is healed of a fatal head wound and nero had committed suicide with a sword to the neck.
The bible says he will come out of the bottomless pit
nero is considered to be the most cruel dictator who has ever lived.
[edit on 25-11-2004 by Durwood]