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reply to post by kathat
Ok, I can see you've lost the plot so are just grasping now....
Regions snubbing "London"? How so? Not that is actually anything new, there has always been a "them and us" attitude between sections of the UK and London. Again, not that I really care, as I don't live in London. The country is more than 1 city, you know. Not that anything of that has anything to do with the thread - like I said, you're just grasping now.
And of course China is in it for the "long term" - so is everyone else. This is just the latest chapter in a story that has been going for centuries . China isn't anything special - the only reason they appear to be more "on the ball" is because of their totalitarian state where they can act with impunity without worrying about panning permission or protests. But they have massive internal issues that, if left ignored like they are at the moment, will blow up in their face, just like it has done before with them and they have failed to learn...
reply to post by kathat
And? Why do I care about the age of toilets and America?
Of course China is concerned, otherwise why the rush to modernise, learn Blue water techniques and get itself a Carrier? Because it knows what is required to dominate the Sea's, as demonstrated by what the UK and US have done to do exactly that over the past 200+ years. They want a Navy that is at least comparable to the US in terms of capability, something they are a long way off at the moment.
Until that point, I wouldn't be too concerned about a flotilla of destroyers looking for a plane - and Amphibious invasions are notoriously difficult, even when done over small stretches of water, so doing one of several thousand Km without anyone noticing would require total Naval domination, obtained by numerical and technological superiority which is something they do not have.
FYI, I'm British...... Thought that was obvious from the Avatar etc so your banging on about America means nothing to me in the slightest.edit on 27/3/14 by stumason because: (no reason given)
reply to post by Trollsmustdie
China "owning" land is neither here nor there. They don't get any sovereignty over it and is no different to any other country/person/company with property interests in another nation.
If Australia wanted to, at any point, it could nationalise or otherwise appropriate said property and be well within it's rights to do so. Of course, this may have adverse affects on relations with China or with investors, but it is done by countries the world over.
reply to post by Cinrad
You think they want to invade Australia? Ha! New Zealand is the true prize!
Someone better tell the kiwi's, cause they are all Over here ( in Australia ).
reply to post by championoftruth
Clearly, your not very well versed on amphibious landings and the logistics required to support said force several thousand Km from home then...
Simply "being by the sea" doesn't make somewhere "easy to invade". Every town in the UK is no more than 70 miles from the coast and the Germans were only 22 miles across the channels, yet couldn't muster an invasion. D-Day only succeeded through sheer luck and even then, it wasn't a forgone conclusion despite the sheer amount of men and machines involved.
China has a very limited sea-lift capacity - it has 3 large ships, which can carry a battalion each, around 500-800 men and around 15 smaller ones which can carry 2-300 each. In total, that is a total capacity for 6900 embarked men or 2 Brigades.
Also, the US has recently agreed with Australia to station an entire MEF (Marine Expeditionary Force) in Northern Australia, so I think they'll be fine.